貪心釀大錯拒絕獨行俠4年7000萬合同的諾埃爾目前在雷霆領著底薪

貪心釀大錯:諾埃爾曾拒絕了獨行俠4年7000萬美元的報價,因為他覺得自己值更多。後來,他只與獨行俠簽訂了1年400萬美元合同。現今,他底薪簽約雷霆。

When being too greedy goes wrong : Nerlens Noel turned down a 4 yr 70 million deal from the Mavs because he thought he's worth more. He later signed 1 yr $4 mil deal to return to the mavs and got a vet min this season to play with the thunder.

貪心釀大錯拒絕獨行俠4年7000萬合同的諾埃爾目前在雷霆領著底薪


[–]MavericksFireeveryonenow1 1097 指標 16小時前

Noel is another victim of the 2016 offseason, he saw scrubs like Noah and Mozgov getting paid and got greedy.

獨行俠球迷:諾埃爾也是2016年休賽期的受害者之一。看著諾阿和莫茲科夫這樣的球員都能得到大合同,自己難免變得貪心。

[–]Knicksieatass123 399 指標 15小時前

Stop reminding me.

尼克斯球迷:別說了,扎心了老鐵。

[–]ThePudgyPirate 276 指標 15小時前

Sorry, man, I'm sure he didn't Noah it was still a sore spot.

替他陪個不是,他肯定不是故意揭你傷疤的,喏,啊,彆氣啦。[譯註1]

[譯註1]文字遊戲:Noah和Know諧音。

[–]TimberwolvesSoupyWolfy 205 指標 14小時前

Dude, this is serious stuff. Quit Joakim around

哥們,嚴肅點好吧。瞧見木給人家氣的啊,別瞎開玩笑![譯註2]

[譯註2]文字遊戲:Joakim和Joking諧音。

[–]GrizzliesSupercoolBeasGOAT 106 指標 12小時前

Fuck both of you

灰熊球迷:你們兩個狗日的啊。

[–][NYK] Carmelo Anthonyfleejianlian 154 指標 12小時前

was that joke not up to par-son?

尼克斯球迷:咋了兄弟?笑話帕是不合你胃口?下次我們森斯而後行。[譯註3]

[譯註3]文字遊戲:up to par=夠格,達到標準,son=孩子,連起來讀就是parson(s)帕森斯。指代帕森斯的垃圾合同。

[–]BullsThe_Dok 138 指標 11小時前

Haha I wanna do one!

Mozgov!

我也要玩我也要玩!

莫茲戈夫!

是這麼玩嘛?


[–]shanmustafa 778 指標 16小時前

Bulls offered Jimmy I believe 4 years 40m after a season where he averaged 13/5/3 on .522 TS, he bet on himself and the next offseason got 5 years 100m , shit happens

我記得,在巴特勒以52%的真實命中率砍下場均13+5+3的數據後,公牛給他開出了4年4000萬美元的合同,但他賭自己值更多,於是,他下個休賽期就拿到了5年1億美元的頂薪。世事難料嘛。

[–]HornetsNamath96 44 指標 12小時前

It’s not the same though. Noel was mad about an extra 10m or so. It’d be more like jimmy got offered 5 years 90m and said fuck that and bet on himself

可是他倆情況又不一樣。諾埃爾斤斤計較的是那多出來的1000萬美元。真要比的話,也是公牛給了吉米5年9000萬報價,但是吉米直接掀桌子不幹,賭自己能拿更多的錢。

[–]RaptorsVinceJumpmanCarter 289 指標 13小時前

Butler is the exception, not the rule.

巴特勒可不是常態,是例外。

[–]odinlubumeta 289 指標 13小時前

Isn’t Noel though as well? It’s not like there are tons of guys who turned down big contracts and ended up with minimums.

諾埃爾也是例外吧?又不是說很多人拒絕了大合同後最終只拿到底薪。

[–]RaptorsWasV3 76 指標 13小時前

If you looked at the available cap space in both years, Noel would have realized the only team that could pay him what he wanted was Dallas, LA or Pheonix, with the latter two not being fits.

其實吧,如果諾埃爾當時看了看各隊那一賽季和次一賽季的薪金空間,他本該意識到,能給出他想要的合同只有達拉斯、洛杉磯和菲尼克斯,而後面兩隻球隊又不適合他。


[–]Pistonsbigbrycm 181 指標 14小時前*

I will never understand his thought process. He’s young, 4 years is a short timespan, take that large contract and bet on yourself on the next contract then. He would’ve been 26 after this 4 year contract expired, still well in his prime.

完全搞不懂他當時的心路歷程。諾埃爾很年輕,四年時間轉瞬即逝,他完全可以先拿下那份大合同等到合同到期了再賭下一份大合同啊。四年合同到期之後他也才26歲,正值巔峰啊。

[–]Rocketsemd9629 124 指標 12小時前

Especially coming off of a rookie contract. Dude, you don't have the kind of money to be risking 70M!

尤其是他新秀合同才結束。老哥,你哪來的錢/底氣去冒7000萬刀這麼大的險。

[–][WAS] John WallDylanG_ 101 指標 14小時前

You know who also thought he was worth more? The Mavs when they offered him the 4 years and 70 million. That’s how those initial offers to RFA’s usually work. The team gives a slightly lower number than they think the player will probably get from an offer sheet. Noel’s agent nor the Mavs understood how much drier the market was gonna be after 2016 until free agency officially struck. Once it became immediately clear there was no market, that offer didn’t exist anymore.

其實,當時覺得諾埃爾值更多的還恰恰就是獨行俠:他們給諾埃爾開出了4年7000萬的合同。一般來說,球隊給隊內受限制自由球員的初始報價通常會低於該球員的市場價。在2016年自由市場正式開啟之前,不論是諾埃爾經紀人還是獨行俠方面都沒預料到球員市場會那麼幹涸。所以,在市場很明顯不景氣的情形下,這份報價自然而然就不存在了。


[–]Timberwolvesbulletbait 54 指標 11小時前

Similarly, Shabazz Muhammad turned down a 4 year, $40 million extension. He believed that, with a good year, he could command $20 million a year on his next deal. Instead he's fighting for his NBA life on the back end of the Bucks roster.

森林狼球迷:無獨有偶,沙巴茲-穆罕默德也是拒絕了4年4000萬美元的續約合同。他覺得吧,如果趕上市場景氣,他的下一份合同能拿到年薪2000萬美元。結果,他現在為了立足NBA不得不在雄鹿板凳尾端摸爬滾打。

[–]Celticscorruocorruo 135 指標 15小時前

The 2016 market was weird for everyone. Unfortunately he came out with the shortest end of the stick after getting caught up in the 2016 fuckery.

He has a lot to prove and I think he'll prove himself this year and make that money next offseason

凱爾特人球迷:2016年的球員市場對每個人都怪異十足。不幸的是,在2016年各隊亂撒錢導致薪金空間被鎖死後,諾埃爾是倒黴的那一個。

好在他還有很多證明自己的機會,我相信他今年能證明自己,然後下賽季拿個大合同。

[–][OKC] Terrance Fergusoncaptainsausagetits 58 指標 15小時前

He's still only 24 which is young-ish for a Center. As long as he stays injury free he can prove himself, although that might be hard sitting on the bench behind Adams

雷霆球迷:他才24歲,對於中鋒來說,這個年紀還算是挺年輕的。如果他能避免傷病,那他是能證明自己的。不過他得給亞當斯打替補,所以證明自己可能還是有些難吧。

[–]ThunderManchester_dortmund 146 指標 17小時前

Cant fault someone for trying to bet on themselves. Just sometimes it doesnt work out

雷霆球迷:我們不能責備別人把賭注押在自己身上啊。有時候就是沒成唄。

[–]KingOfArmpitFetishes 220 指標 17小時前

Was a 4/70 deal really that insulting though? I understand he wanted more, but why he didn't just take the guaranteed money and try for a better contract in his prime is beyond me.

可是4年7000萬的合同很侮辱人嗎?我理解,諾埃爾當時想要更多錢,但是讓我苦思不解的是,為什麼不先接受擺在桌面上的板上釘釘的合同,然後在自己的巔峰期(四年後)再尋求大合同呢?

[–]NBAYourMajesty90 104 指標 16小時前

Crazy thing is; that's how much LeBron got in Miami lol. Yes, he opted out after season 4 and made less than 80mil those seasons.

Fucking crazy.

知道瘋狂的是啥嗎,詹姆斯在熱火的四年也就拿了那麼多哈哈。第四賽季跳出合同後,老詹在熱火四年只賺了不到8000萬美元,

真是賊雞兒瘋狂。


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