中國禁掉了“頹廢”音樂,為什麼巴西不這麼做呢?


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Robin Daverman, world traveler

Answered Wed

China banned Hip-Hop and other degenerative musics. Why doesn’t Brazil start doing the same?

LOL! Don’t be silly.

What happened in China was that a Hip Hop singer wrote a song, which went something like “it’s Christmas night, I’m gonna do some drugs and f*ck some bi*ch”, and the whole country went into an apoplectic shock! A public figure, glorifying drug use and insulting women! What has the world come to! What the heck is the government doing, allow this kind of stuff to happen! The government must step in, to defend our children!!

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哈哈……別傻了。

是這樣的,一位嘻哈歌手寫了一首歌,歌詞例如“聖誕之夜,我買了些粉,幹了一些碧池”,整個國家都震驚了!一個公眾人物,讚揚毒品又侮辱女人!世界怎麼這樣!怎麼會讓這樣的事情發生!政府必須介入,保護我們的孩子!



You have to understand – most Chinese have never been robbed in their entire lives, most Chinese youngsters have never seen drugs or guns in real life. Young girls go out alone at 2 am in the morning for ice cream without a care. Regular police are not armed. Violent crimes are quite rare in China.

Murder rate is 0.74 per 100,000 people in China, vs. 27 in Brazil. Both drug use and sexual violence can get you the death penalty in China. It’s that kind of extreme behavior. So a song that seems to be normalizing extremely criminal behavior is totally unacceptable in China. List of countries by intentional homicide rate

你得明白……大多數中國人一輩子都沒遇到過搶劫,大多數中國的年輕人從未見過毒品或槍支。

年輕女孩可以為了賣一根冰激凌在凌晨2點安全出門。

普通警察沒有武器。暴力犯罪在中國很少見。

中國謀殺率是每10萬人0.74人,而巴西是27人。



在中國,吸毒和性暴力都可能會被判死刑,這是極端行為。

所以,一首似乎使犯罪正常化的歌曲,在中國是不受待見的。

Brazil has real gang wars, real drug kingpins, a ton of violent crimes. Heck, it even has real recordings of top politicians planning assassinations and drug running. And there’s nothing you can do about that.

Drugs and violent crimes are already normal in Brazil. If the Brazilians aren’t shocked by real crimes, why in the world would they be shocked by somebody singing about it?

巴西存在真正的幫派戰爭,暴力犯罪嚴重。巴西甚至還有高層政客計劃暗殺和販毒的真實記錄。你對此無能為力。毒品和暴力犯罪在巴西司空見慣,如果巴西人對真正的犯罪行為不感到震驚,又怎會因歌頌這種行為的歌曲而震驚呢?

Taciano Perez, I’ve been a Brazilian for 40 years

Answered Wed

Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that Brazil would start banning “degenerative” music.

Who gets to choose what songs are “degenerative”, and what are not? Judges? Congress? The president? You???

In any case, we would be creating another great opportunity for embezzlement, bribery and corruption.

The only condition I would support banning “degenerative” music is if I personally get to decide it :-).

為論證這點,打個比方,巴西開始禁止“頹廢”音樂。

誰決定哪些歌是“頹廢”的,哪些不是?巴西法官?國會?總統還是你

無論如何,這樣會為巴西人的貪汙、賄賂、腐敗創造另一個巨大機會的。

我支持禁止“頹廢”音樂的唯一條件是,如果我能親自決定的話。

Logan Brouse, Bar Owner

Answered Wed

Yeah, no it didn’t. China has a very popular show called RICH – rap in China which is all about Chinese hip hop. Great show and fun albeit weird judges. Nothing banned though

不,沒被禁。中國有一個非常火的節目叫“中國有嘻哈”,都是關於中國嘻哈文化的。



很好的節目

Mario Ramos

Answered Wed

Brazil and the PROC have very different cultural, historical and political backgrounds. These alone create very different outlooks on what is acceptable or not as social norms.

巴西和中國的文化、歷史、政治背景不同。僅是這些,就對什麼能被接受、什麼違反社會規範存在不同的觀點。

Further, censorship is a very dangerous tool. It’s hard to clearly define its scope and limits without creating the perception of repression in the population at large. When that happens, political backlash or passive resistance is certain.

再者,審查很難明確界定範圍和限制,而不對大多數人口造成壓力。否則可能會出現反彈或消極抵抗。

Every society has its own natural dinamical equilibrium point between order and chaos defining how permissive it can be.

在定義混亂和秩序之間,每個社會都有其自然動態平衡點。