国外网友热议:中日两国在科技领域谁先进

国外网友热议,科技上那个国家更先进,中国或日本,原文如下,分享给大家,你们怎么看,欢迎吐槽。

Which country is technologically more advanced: China or Japan?

科技上那个国家更先进,中国或日本?


以下为回复:

I don’t think there can be any question that in terms of raw technological knowledge and expertise Japan is still, overall, way ahead, the legacy of 70+ years of world leading investment in education and research and design.

China leads Japan in a few niche areas (for example possibly some manned space flight, some specific military technologies and specialist areas such as Chinese medicine related developments among others).

However it is only a matter of time before China catches up and probably overtakes Japan, just due to shear numbers (China has 10x the population of Japan). To catch up across the board might take as much as another 20-30 years though.

我认为,就原始的技术知识和专业知识而言,日本在总体上毫无疑问仍遥遥领先,这是70多年来领先世界的教育、研究和设计投资的积累。

中国在几个小众地区领先日本(例如,有人驾驶太空飞行,某些特定的军事技术以及诸如中医药相关发展等专门领域)。

中国的人口是日本的10倍,中国赶上日本并赶超日本只是时间问题。 但是,要全面赶上,可能还需要长达20到30年的时间。

It’s obviously much easier to catch up in technology than to make new technology. China has been able to jump forward in technology by obtaining foreign tech by various means. On the one hand it has bought technology, it has sent students to study abroad and it has engaged in join ventures with foreign companies/organisations where part of the deal is usually some degree of technology transfer, on the other hand China has reverse engineered foreign products and captured weapons systems, and has obtained technology by espionage and hacking both of other go nments and foreign companies.This has, for example, enabled China to develop some pretty impressive next generation stealth fighters among other achievements.

显然,在技术上迎头赶上要比从零开始发明新技术要容易得多。通过以各种方式获得外国技术,中国已经能够在技术上取得进步。一方面,它购买了技术,它把学生送到了国外学习,并且与外国公司/组织进行合资,这些交易的一部分通常是某种程度的技术转让,另一方面,中国对外国进行了反向工程。产品和被捕获的武器系统,并且通过间谍活动和入侵其他政府和外国公司而获得了技术。例如,这使中国得以发展一些令人印象深刻的下一代隐形战斗机以及其他成就。

It’s important to note that despite the public vitriol between the Chinese and Japanese go nments, on the ground in China, there is massive cooperation between Chinese and Japanese companies and any number of joint ventures and associated technology sharing. Therefore Japan does not necessarily have to lose out in a situation where China catches it up in technology levels, such development may well be a win-win for both countries.

需要注意的是,中国和日本公司之间的大规模合作以及许多合资企业和相关技术共享。 因此,在中国的技术水平赶超日本的情况下,日本不一定非要输掉,这样的发展可能对两国都是双赢的。

In certain areas, due to historical reasons.

During the Qin dynasty, the first emperor sent a team of top herbalists, chemists, biologists , scientists , 500 young boys and girls with a large to Japan looking for the legendary medicine that would make him immortal. They stayed in Japan.

在某些地区,由于历史原因。

在秦朝期间,秦始皇派遣了一支由顶级草药学家,化学家,生物学家,科学家组成的团队,500名的童男童女的队伍前往日本,以寻找长生不老的传奇药物。 他们留在日本。

I’m going to go with Japan in this question, only because technology in Japan is spread to a wider user base. People in rural China have still problems accessing to technology, when compared to rural Japan.

You can also check the The Global Innovation Index 2016 for a more detailed response or Bloomberg’s Innovation Index. The latter index displays Japan as #6 and China as #19.

我将在这个问题上,我们认为是日本,只是因为日本的技术已经传播到更广泛的用户群。 与日本农村相比,中国农村的人们在获取技术方面仍然存在问题。

您也可以查看《 2016年全球创新指数》以获取更详细的回复,或查看彭伯社的创新指数。 后者将日本排在第六位,中国排在第19位。

So Japan even more advanced than USA?Where is Japan on this list?Decades ahead?

那么日本比美国还先进?日本在这个名单上哪里?几十年?

NOVEMBER 2017

TOP500 LIST

The fiftieth TOP500 list of the fastest supercomputers in the world has China overtaking the US in the total number of ranked systems by a margin of 202 to 143. It is the largest number of supercomputers China has ever claimed on the TOP500 ranking, with the US presence shrinking to its lowest level since the list’s inception 25 years ago.

Just six months ago, the US led with 169 systems, with China coming in at 160. Despite the reversal of fortunes, the 143 systems claimed by the US gives them a solid second place finish, with Japan in third place with 35, followed by Germany with 20, France with 18, and the UK with 15.

China has also overtaken the US in aggregate performance as well. The Asian superpower now claims 35.4 percent of the TOP500 flops, with the US in second place with 29.6 percent.

The top 10 systems remain largely unchanged since the June 2017 list, with a couple of notable exceptions.

2017年11月

前500名名单

在世界排名前50位的超级计算机排名中,中国以202台超过美国143台,跃居榜首。这是中国在500强排行榜上拥有的超级计算机数量最多的一次,而美国的超级计算机数量则降至该榜单25年前创立以来的最低水平。

就在六个月前,美国以169套领先,中国排在第160位。尽管形式逆转,但美国宣称拥有143套,使其稳居第二,日本排在第三位,排在第35位,其次 德国为20,法国为18,英国为15。

中国的整体表现也超过了美国。 亚洲超级大国目前在TOP500强中占35.4%,美国以29.6%位居第二。

自2017年6月排行榜以来,排名前10位的基本上保持不变,但有两个明显的例外。

In many ways yes but as I have stated in another post, more often than not Japan and China are working together. I would say that at least 40% or more of Chinese technology is Japanese technology. We have more researchers working together and in that way it is not a matter of A vs. B but A hand-in-hand with.

是的,但在很多方面,正如我在另一篇文章中所说的那样,中日两国经常合作。 我要说的是,至少有40%或更多的中国技术是日本技术。 我们有更多的研究人员一起工作,因此这不是A与B的问题,而是A与之相伴的问题。

Yep, especially in those traditional high-end manufacturing industries, such as automobiles, machines, electronic materials, medical equipment, medicine, presicion chemistry, etc.

I do believe China is more advanced in some specified fields though, such as IT (both hardware and software).

是的,尤其是在那些传统的高端制造业中,例如汽车,机器,电子材料,医疗设备,医药,精密化学等。

我确实相信中国在某些特定领域比IT更先进,例如IT(硬件和软件)。

So currently China is working on an open source code environment for its development specifically for AI. Whereas Japan is still a free enterprise build and charge, control rights model.

Chinese developers just take what's available and make more variants over and over with very little control over development rights.

In that sense China will likely leap forward past everyone.

目前中国正致力于为发展,尤其是AI领域开发专门针对人工智能的开放源代码环境。而日本仍然是一个免费的企业建立和收费,控制权模式。中国的开发人员只是利用现有的资源,不断地制造更多的变体,而对开发权几乎没有控制权。

从这个意义上说,中国很可能超越所有国家。

If the rich Japanese is compared the rich Chinese and the poor Japanese is compared with the poor Chinese there is probably very little differences. If High tech in Japan is compared with the high tech in China and the low tech in Japan is compared with the low tech in China there is also probably very little differences. The Japanese enjoy a higher per capita GDP while the GDP of China is 3–4 times greater than that of Japan.

如果将富裕的日本人与富裕的中国人进行比较,而将贫穷的日本人与贫困的中国人进行比较,则差异可能很小。 如果将日本的高科技与中国的高科技进行比较,并将日本的低技术与中国的低技术进行比较,则差异可能也很小。 日本的人均GDP较高,而中国的GDP则是日本的3-4倍。

Now, it must be Japan. Japan is already began an advanced country for more than four decades. But, China is rising and rapidly grow. It will catches up with Japan is some fields in not so distant future.

现在,一定是日本。 日本40年前成为先进国家。 但是,中国正在崛起并迅速发展。 在不久的将来它将赶上日本的某些领域。

Japan. China is still a developing country. The largest population still limit the level of the whole country. some area are as well as Japan, but most are not as rich as Japan

必须是日本。 中国仍然是一个发展中国家。 最大的人口仍然限制了整个国家的水平。 有些地区和日本一样好,但是大多数都没有日本那么富裕。

If you consider Shanghai and Tokyo….. the standards of living are probably close. If you consider some of the less developed areas in western China….. not so much.

如果对比上海和东京……的生活水平可能接近。 如果您对比一下中国西部的一些欠发达地区,那差距很多




My guess is Japan but I don't have facts or figures to back me up. China is closing the gap quickly it seems to specialising in clean energy and electric cars. I have visited both countries

我的觉得是日本,但我没有数据支持。 中国似乎正在迅速缩小差距,似乎专门研究清洁能源和电动汽车。 我已经去过了这两个国家。

Japan is more advanced in most of the fields in mechanical engineering, whereas China is ahead of Japan in computer science.

日本在机械工程的大多数领域都比较先进,而中国在计算机科学方面领先于日本。

Japan for sure. Japan is the most technologically advanced country in the world.

肯定是日本, 日本是世界上技术最先进的国家。

Japan right now, but China is catching up at an alarming rate.

日本现在,但中国正在以惊人的速度追赶。

Generally, Japan.Although China have advantage in some certain area.

总体而言,是日本。尽管中国在某些领域具有优势。

Actually, it’s not easy to answer.

China is technologically more advanced in some aspects, but Japan is in other aspects. So it’s hard to tell.

For example, space technology, China is definitely more advanced than Japan. In terms of computer sicence, China also surpasses Japan, for example China has super computers like Shen Wei ranking the 1st worldwide and using China’s own CPUs, and operating rate is 9 times faster than Kyo , Japanese super computer. In military field, Japan is far behind China, Japan is cripple in military field and has lost quite a lot of abilities in developing weapons. Don’t tell me that Japan is good at manufacturing civilian industry products, so they can quickly gain the ability to developing weapons. Civilian industry products are way more different from military products which need accumulation of many years. You can search China’s Type 99 Tank’s information and compare it to Japan’s Type 10 Tank.

实际上,这不容易回答。

中国在某些方面在技术上更先进,而日本在其他方面则更先进。 所以很难说。

例如,在太空技术上,中国肯定比日本先进。 在计算机技术方面,中国也超过了日本,例如,中国拥有像神威这样的超级计算机,使用中国自己的CPU排名世界第一,其运行速度是日本超级计算机Kyo的9倍。 在军事领域,日本远远落后于中国,日本在军事领域处于瘫痪状态,已经失去了很多开发武器的能力。 不要告诉我,日本擅长制造民用产品,因此它们可以迅速获得开发武器的能力。 民用工业产品与需要多年积累的军事产品有很大不同。 您可以搜索中国的99型坦克的信息,并将其与日本的10型坦克进行比较。

Japan is still doing better than China in bioscience, China has a long way to catch up with Japan. And in civilian precision instrument manufacturing field , Japan still has more advantages than China. Japan’s materials technology is quite more advanced than China’s.

To sum up , you can’t just say which is more advanced. What you can say is which is more advanced in some field.

日本在生物科学方面仍然比中国好,中国要赶上日本还有很长的路要走。 在民用精密仪器制造领域,日本仍比中国具有更多优势。 日本的材料技术比中国先进得多。
综上所述,您不能只说哪个更先进。 您可以说的是在某些领域更先进。

Both the two are highly industrialized countries now. There are areas where China is more advanced and areas where the other way round is true.

两者现在都是高度工业化的国家。 在某些领域,中国更加先进,某些领域,日本更先进。

(个人认为:虽然我们经济总量已经大幅超过日本,但我们有很多地方不如日本,仍需更多努力)