因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因爲他父親?

“在2001年總決賽湖人做客費城的三場比賽中,科比的父親完全不見了蹤影。最終這輪系列賽以湖人奪冠而告終,但是賽後的科比卻在淋浴間內捧著獎盃哭泣。當時人們都猜測科比是喜極而泣,或者終於一身輕鬆了。科比後來在接受洛杉磯時報採訪時解釋了原因:‘跟我爸有關’”

"When the LAL played 3 games in Philly during the 01 Finals, Kobe's dad was nowhere to be found. At the end of that series, the Lakers won and Kobe was spotted holding the trophy in the shower and crying, everyone assumed it was joy or relief. He later told the Times, 'That was about my dad.'"

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?

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The falling out occurred in 2000, though neither Joe nor Kobe talks about it publicly anymore. At 21, Kobe got engaged to 18-year-old Vanessa Laine, whom he had met on the set of a video shoot when she was a high school senior. Joe did not approve. The problem, according to the Los Angeles Times, was that Joe was "uncomfortable that Vanessa, a Latina, is not African-American, and he is uneasy with [Kobe's] selfless devotion to her."

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原話:

科比與他父親喬-布萊恩特的關係是在2000年開始惡化的,不過現在父子兩人都不再公開談論這件事了。科比首次邂逅瓦妮莎是在一個錄製視頻(紀錄片)的現場,那時瓦妮莎還是個高三學生。後來,二十一歲的科比跟十八歲的瓦妮莎訂了婚,而科比的父親喬-布萊恩特並不贊成這樁親事。根據洛杉磯時報的報道,問題的關鍵在於,喬對於瓦妮莎是拉丁裔而不是非裔美國人感到不舒服,而且科比對瓦妮莎的無私付出也讓喬感到十分不爽。”

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?

鏈接如下:https://www.si.com/vault/2012/05/14/106192721/where-does-greatness-come-from

When Kobe and Vanessa got married the following year, Joe and Pam didn't attend the wedding. When the Lakers played three games in Philadelphia during the 2001 NBA Finals, Joe was nowhere to be found. When, at the end of that series, the Lakers triumphed and Kobe was spotted holding the trophy in the shower and crying, everyone assumed it was out of joy, or relief. But he later told the Times, "That was about my dad."

當科比與瓦妮莎在隨後一年走入婚姻殿堂的時候,科比的父母喬-布萊恩特與帕梅拉-布萊恩特都沒有出席他的婚禮。在2001年總決賽湖人做客費城的三場比賽中,科比的父親完全不見了蹤影。最終這輪系列賽以湖人奪冠而告終,但是賽後的科比卻在淋浴間內捧著獎盃哭泣。當時人們都猜測科比是喜極而泣,或者終於一身輕鬆了。科比後來在接受洛杉磯時報採訪時解釋了原因:‘跟我爸有關’。

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?


[–]HeatErectusPenor 784 指標 5小時前

Damn, that's sad. I can't imagine denying the feelings of my son because his partner of choosing isn't the same color as you. Even when your son is a god damn NBA champion all that matters is that he "betrayed" his race

我去,這有點悲傷啊。就因為兒子找了個跟自己膚色不同的對象,你就把兒子拒之心外?無法想象啊。你的兒子可特麼的是NBA總冠軍啊,結果在你這裡“背叛”他的種族才是真正重要的事情。

[–]LakersJesusSama 390 指標 5小時前

His relationship with his parents has been REALLY bad as a whole.

He sued the auction company that his parents contracted that sold a bunch of his stuff including a commemorative NBA championship ring. They gave it to the auction company so that they, the parents, could buy a new house.

湖人球迷:總的來說,科比跟他爸媽的關係一直非常非常差。

科比曾經起訴了一家拍賣公司,因為他的父母把他的一大堆東西拿去拍賣,那裡面甚至包括了一枚有很大象徵意義的總冠軍戒指。科比父母這樣做的原因僅僅是為了能買一棟新房子。

相關新聞鏈接:http://www.espn.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9360162/kobe-bryant-memorabilia-lawsuit-settled-parents-apologize

He even went so far to pen a letter to himself basically about his side of the family. It was basically a veiled lesson to others but fanned out a bit of his dirty laundry.

科比後來甚至給親筆給自己寫了一封信[譯註1],基本上是從他角度出發闡明瞭對家人的態度。對於其他人來說,這封信基本上算是一個比較隱晦的教訓,但同時科比也向世人揭示了自己的家醜。

[譯註1]科比曾於2016年在《球星看臺》上發佈過一遍親筆信:【虎撲中文翻譯】科比親筆:寫給年輕時的自己>>

[–]CelticsNdbdncofowpeh 205 指標 4小時前

Come on you’re not even giving their side of it. He married a Mexican girl, so obviously it was a justified relatiation.

凱爾特人球迷:拜託,你並沒有站在科比父母的角度上去思考問題呀!科比可是娶了一個墨!西!哥女孩兒啊!所以科比父母跟科比反目成仇也是絕對絕對有道理的!手動狗頭。


[–]RaptorsEustassKiddd 100 指標 4小時前*

This is also a sad reality for people whos parents are immigrants. I am coloured but I had to end a 3 year long relationship because my parents would never accept her due to her being a different ethnicity. It was either her or my family.

Shit fucked me up for a bit man, I understand Kobe

猛龍球迷:對於那些父母是移民的人來說,這也確實是個殘酷的現實。我就屬於有色人種,我之前因為父母的竭力反對而不得不終結一段三年的戀情,就因為她不是我們種族的。我家裡的意思就是“有她沒我們,有我們沒她”。

那是真的TM讓我心痛如刀絞。我真的理解科比。

[–][GSW] Draymond Greenjthc 158 指標 4小時前

That's when you've got to put your foot down, otherwise they'll control you forever. I gave my parents an ultimatum when I married a girl of a different race: this is my life and you have to respect my choices if you want to be a part of my life.

你就該堅定立場硬氣一把,不然你爸媽會永遠操縱你的生活。當我要娶一個其他種族的妹子時,我就給我爸媽下了最後通牒:這是我自己的人生,如果你們想要成為我生活的一部分,就必須尊重我的選擇。

[–]RaptorsEustassKiddd 93 指標 4小時前*

I understand that completely but in my case if your son is marrying a girl that isn't the same race then your entire family gets ridiculed, if I left them my entire family would suffer by being looked down upon that their son ran off with that type of girl. It would cause them endless pain due to how much value they put on these things. It was a very tough decision

剛才的猛龍球迷:我完全你的意思。但是就我的情況而言,(在我們那兒)如果你的兒子娶了一個其他種族的妹子,那麼你整個家庭都會被別人笑話的。如果我由於跟我心愛的人私奔而拋棄全家老小,那麼我的家人們就會被別人看不起,因為兒子竟然跟那種類型的女孩跑了。由於他們對這些事情看的很重,所以你建議的做法會給他們帶來無盡的痛苦。所以對我來講,跟她分手真的是艱難的決定。

Why am I being down voted for this? I'm literally just explaining why this happens and why it was an extremely difficult decision

為啥這麼多人滅我?我只是單純在解釋為什麼這件事會發生,為什麼我的決定那麼艱難。

[–]HeatErectusPenor 25 指標 4小時前

What culture is this and where do you live?

這是啥文化啊,你住在哪呀?

[–]RaptorsEustassKiddd 48 指標 4小時前

Middle Eastern living in Toronto

猛龍球迷:我是住在多倫多的中東人。

[–]DumbIMGstudent 81 指標 4小時前*

Problem with Middle Eastern, Pakistani, Indian parents, they love to play that guilt card.

I remember as a pakistani being in love with a hindu indian girl and my parents flipped too. I honestly never loved another girl as much as her and I'm currently married (to a paki).

像什麼中東、巴基斯坦和印度的家長啊,他們總是愛打苦情牌好讓你有罪惡感。

我是個巴基斯坦人,我還記得我曾經愛上了一個印度妹子,我父母那會兒也是翻臉了。說實話,我愛她勝過世界上的一切,然而我現在跟一個巴基斯坦人結婚了。

The other dude is right though, do what makes you happy. Your parents will eventually come around when they see the grandchild. No grandparent can resist giving love to their grandchild.

那哥們兒的話的確也有些道理,你應該做能讓你自己開心的事。當你有了兒女,你的父母最終還是會想明白的。畢竟沒有不疼愛自己孫子孫女的爺爺奶奶。

It did teach me a life lesson though, I will do anything for my children's happiness. If they want to marry a girl of a different race or religion, idgaf. It is their life to live and I have no right to have control over the decisions they make as an adult. Nor will I ever guilt trip them and say stupid bullshit about how bad it looks to the entire family. What do I care about more, my children's happiness or the opinion of my entire family?

不過這確實也給我上了一課:我會為了我孩子們的幸福而做任何事情。如果他們願意娶一個來自其他種族或者信仰其他宗教的女孩兒,我特麼才不管呢。這是他們的生活,我沒有權利去幹涉他們成年後所做出的決定。我也絕對不會打什麼苦情牌,絕對不會告訴他們這樣做會讓整個家族看上去有多蠢什麼的,這都是些屁話。我是更關心我自己孩子們的幸福,還是外界對我家庭的看法?

You're a good person for choosing family over love, but REAL family would never let that be an option. Rather they would show acceptance to whom you love.

你在家人與愛情之間選擇了前者,你是個好人。但真正的家人是不會給你出二選一的選擇題的。相反,他們會接納你所愛的人。

Edit - another example, my one cousin ran away and married a bengali girl. His whole family was against it and they were ridiculed by the elders of the family (none of them have more than a HS degree). Now they love his wife and once they got to know her, they realized she is a total sweetheart and has her head on straight. This whole race/religion shit with Middle Eastern and South Asians is a bunch of bullshit.

編輯:我再舉另外一個例子吧,我的一個表兄弟跟一個孟加拉妹子私奔並且結婚了,他的家人們當初都反對這件事,而且他們也確實被家族裡的長輩所嘲笑(這些長輩最多高中畢業)。不過現在,他們的家人都愛上了這個兒媳婦,在他們深入瞭解兒媳婦後,他們意識到她是個難得的好妹子,而且頭腦也很清楚。中東和南亞地區這套什麼種族和宗教的屁話簡直就是狗屎。


[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 89 指標 5小時前

I remember hearing about this as a kid growing up in LA and being so confused about it. Like why would his dad care she was Latina when half of LA is Latino/latina? Obviously I was a dumb kid.

湖人球迷:我在洛杉磯長大,當我還是個小屁孩的時候就聽說過科比的這件事情,當時我感到非常困惑。為啥他爸會對瓦妮莎是拉丁裔而感到不滿呢?洛杉磯有一半人都是拉丁裔啊!很顯然,我那時候就是個傻不愣登的小孩。

[–][LAL] Lamar OdomKlaxosaur 135 指標 4小時前

Nah. You're normal and didnt see race an issue.

湖人球迷:兄弟,不是這麼回事。你是正常人,正常人不把種族視作問題。

[–]Blueandigo 82 指標 5小時前*

My dad didn't attend my wedding and he was upset that I was getting married. We're good to go now but it upset me and it still does because I just wish he would've been there. I'll never have that moment again and I think about it everyday. It scares me to even have kids because I always wonder would be approve of it or would he be upset if I did. I just want him to accept my decisions.

我爸爸沒有參加我的婚禮,我結婚時他非常不爽。雖然我們現在的關係還說得過去,但是他沒有參加我婚禮的事當時就困擾著我,現在還是困擾著我,因為我真的希望他那次能來。結婚這種時刻一輩子就一次,我每天都會想起他錯過了我的那個時刻。現在甚至連要孩子我都不敢要,因為我總是會想我爸會不會同意啊,如果要了孩子我爸會不會不爽啊……我只是想讓我爸爸接受我所做的決定。

Edit: I'm sorry guys, this shit just reminded me of this and choked me up.

編輯:兄弟們我很抱歉,科比這事讓我想起了我的個人經歷,我TM哭得不行不行的。

[–]WarriorsHandsomeCowboy 39 指標 4小時前

If he misses out on the best moments of your life, that's his loss. It's not up to you to cater to his every whim and desire, so good for you for going through with the marriage anyway. Please don't let detract you from growing your family even more and being the parent to your kids that you always wish that you had.

如果你爸爸錯過了你人生中最美妙的時刻,那是他的損失。你沒有義務滿足他的一切需求和想法。所以你能堅持把婚結完是好樣的!請千萬不要因為這件事而阻止自己組建的家庭的壯大,請一定要做那個你一直都想自己父親成為的那種父親。


[–]Kingspendletonskyforce 149 指標 5小時前

Dads a racist.

科比他爹就是種族主義者。

[–]Trail BlazersDrYoda 436 指標 5小時前

Imagine having a child that's successful as Kobe Bryant and still trying to control them to the point where you disown them and don't attend their wedding because you don't think they're making 100% the best decision? Parenthood is wild

有一個科比這麼成功的孩子,你卻還想控制他的生活,甚至到了跟他斷絕關係和不參加孩子婚禮的地步……就因為你覺得科比沒有做出100%正確的抉擇?這家長當的可真是不可思議。

[–][DEN] Jamal Murrayfrostwolf011 222 指標 5小時前*

This is not even about the best decision. Bryant dad was not unhappy because his son was marrying a hoe that could rob him blind(not saying that Kobe's wife is that), he was unhappy just because his son was marrying a girl that is not black. Out of all the reasons to dislike your future daughter-in-law, that has to be the most bullshit one.

這甚至跟最佳抉擇就沒什麼關係,科比他爸不高興不是覺得他的兒子娶了一個*河蟹*賤,可能把科比的錢財掏空(我不是說瓦妮莎就是那種人),他不高興只是因為他的兒子沒有娶一個黑人妹子。有那麼多討厭你未來兒媳婦的理由,這理由算是最TM扯淡的一個了。

[–][WAS] Gilbert Arenasf5_szn 79 指標 5小時前

thats sad man, and his parents tried to sell all of kobe's shit when he was away

kobe's a legend to still have made it out on top with all that emotional baggage behind him, thats really where this mamba mentality and overall cold heartedness comes from

it served him greatly

唉,這件事太扎心了,而且科比父母還曾試著在科比不在的時候賣掉他所有的東西。

科比真是個傳奇,揹著這麼多情感包袱還依然能登頂世界之巔,這才是他的曼巴精神和冷酷無情態度的來源啊。

真是完美造就了他。

因娶瓦妮莎而被父母拋棄,科比01年奪冠後悶悶不樂是因為他父親?


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