魔術師巴爵爺喬丹前三甲,1990賽季是史上最豪華的MVP爭奪戰?

1989-90 Season - the most stacked MVP race ever?

1989-90賽季——史上最豪華的MVP爭奪戰?

魔術師巴爵爺喬丹前三甲,1990賽季是史上最豪華的MVP爭奪戰?

Was looking through MVP voting results on basketball reference, and the 1989-90 season was absolutely ridiculous in terms of the sheer amount of players who had amazing, arguably MVP caliber seasons.

我剛在basketball reference網站瀏覽歷年MVP的投票結果。我發現在1989-90賽季,打出神奇並稱得上MVP級別的賽季表現的球員數量多到離譜。

The top 10 in voting results:

投票結果的前十名球員如下:

名次球員得分助攻籃板搶斷蓋帽真實命中率1魔術師-約翰遜22.311.56.61.70.40.6222查爾斯-巴克利25.23.911.51.90.60.6613邁克爾-喬丹33.66.36.92.80.70.6064卡爾-馬龍312.811.11.50.60.6265帕特里克-尤因28.62.210.9140.5996大衛-羅賓遜24.32121.73.90.5977哈基姆-奧拉朱旺24.32.9142.14.60.5418湯姆-錢伯斯27.22.371.10.60.5799約翰-斯托克頓17.214.52.62.70.20.60710拉里-伯德24.37.59.51.40.80.546

[–][TOR] Andrea BargnaniSighworthy 444 指標 10小時前

.661 TS, wtf Charles

66.1%的真實命中率,巴克利流弊!

[–]LakersOneRiotTooMany 419 指標 9小時前

Prime Chuck was one of the biggest offensive powerhouses the league has seen. It's a shame a lot of kids these days think of him only in terms of not winning a ring because of all the squabbles with Shaq on TNT.

巔峰巴克利是聯盟歷史上進攻能力最爆炸的球員之一。遺憾的是現在很多年輕人只記住了他沒有冠軍,就因為他和鯊魚在TNT上打的那些嘴炮。

[–]76ersCindyclawsbee 142 指標 8小時前

Basically the Dan Marino of basketball.

76人球迷:差不多就是籃球界的丹-馬裡諾。[譯註1]

[譯註1]丹-馬裡諾:NFL名人堂四分衛,生涯從未奪冠。

[–][MIN] Wally Szczerbiakisackjohnson 242 指標 7小時前

My favorite thing about chuck is that he hates all the hype over advanced stats, and yet they paint him as one of the greatest players of all time way more than his raw stats do.

關於巴克利我最喜歡的一點就是,他討厭所有對於高階數據的吹捧,但是高階數據相比那些基礎數據卻更能將巴克利描繪成歷史最佳球員之一。

[–]Warriorsphonage_aoi 151 指標 7小時前

This about sums it up:

Charles Barkley Doesn't Love Analytics, But Analytics Sure Love Him

這篇文章總結的就很好:

FiveThirtyEight:查爾斯-巴克利不喜歡數據分析,但是數據分析很喜歡他

[–]Pistonsmeherab 55 指標 6小時前

Same with KD, he said he prefers basic stats like FG%, assists and rebounds, when TS% shows how next level his scoring is

KD也是這樣。真實命中率能體現出他得分能力到底有多變態,但他卻說自己更喜歡像命中率、助攻、籃板這樣的基礎數據。


[–][UTA] John Stocktoneneraneteneron 211 指標 8小時前

90s centers man..

3 people with 4 blocks a game? on top of 24 points and 11 boards?

90年代的中鋒們66666……

有3個人場均4蓋帽?並且還能場均24分11板?

[–]76ersCindyclawsbee 56 指標 8小時前

Wayyyy less three's attempted and the idea that getting to the hoop was paramount will make bpg go up. Imagine if they just took the three point line away for a season how many blocks people would start getting.

那會兒三分出手可比現在少多了。而且攻擊籃筐為主的觀念會讓場均蓋帽數上升。想象一下如果NBA直接取消三分線,球員們會有多少蓋帽呢?

[–]fartsinthedark 72 指標 8小時前

DRob and Hakeem also with the ridiculous number of steals at their position that season.

那個賽季的大衛-羅賓遜和奧拉朱旺作為中鋒還能拿到那麼多搶斷,太假了吧。

Fun fact: Hakeem is #8 all-time in total career steals. No other pure center is even in the top 50, and only three other bigs in general are - Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, and Kevin Garnett.

趣事:奧拉朱旺位列歷史搶斷榜第八位。其他的純中鋒甚至連前50都進不了,進入前五十的只有另外三個大個子:卡爾-馬龍、查爾斯-巴克利和凱文-加內特。

[–]San Diego RocketsBosurd 19 指標 3小時前

Hakeem is the greatest all around center of all time. He did everything on the basketball court. Offensively and defensively.

奧拉朱旺是史上最偉大的全能中鋒,他在球場上的進攻端和防守端都無所不能。


[–]KnicksVyperpunkhunk 128 指標 10小時前

That's some league of extraordinary gentleman

這批狠人可有點太不可思議了吧。

[–]KnicksJust-FYI 51 指標 8小時前

Oooh, baby, Ewing with those 4 blocks/game. The 29 points and 11 boards ain't bad either...

尼克斯球迷:我滴乖乖,尤因場均4蓋帽。而且29分11板的數據也很吊。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliNotPercyyy 217 指標 10小時前

Stockton with 14.5 asst average holy crap

斯托克頓場均14.5個助攻,天啦嚕!

[–][UTA] Dell CurryDeathBySuplex 96 指標 9小時前

And nearly 3 steals a game

爵士球迷:並且場均接近3個搶斷。

[–]JazzSonicBroom51 21 指標 6小時前

17 pts 14 ast

Stock was a beast and Malone cleaned up.

爵士球迷:場均拿到17分14助,

斯托克頓當年就是頭野獸,馬龍收拾殘局。


[–][BOS] Kevin GarnettBradWonder 111 指標 9小時前

Bird after double Achilles surgery and a shitty back still putting up stupid stats.

This list is a who's who of top 25 players

凱爾特人球迷:伯德在兩個跟腱手術和背部受大傷後還是拿下了吊炸天的數據。

這表格就是歷史25佳的名單啊。

[–]Celticssolodolo1397 13 指標 8小時前

Double Achilles surgery? Shit I didn't even know about that

凱爾特人球迷:兩個跟腱都做了手術?我去我都不知道這事兒!

[–][CLE] LeBron JamesWhiteness88 27 指標 7小時前

It was bone spurs IIRC. And yeah, Bird was just ridiculously skilled. Probably the most skilled player in NBA history.

我沒記錯的話是骨刺。而且伯德的球技真的逆天,他可能是NBA歷史上技術最強的球員。

[–]SpursDieMilkweed 34 指標 7小時前

That's misleading - was bone spurs in both ankles. Nothing wrong with the Achilles.

層主的話誤導人了。那是兩個腳踝的骨刺問題。他的跟腱一點兒毛病都沒有。

Having had bone spurs on both big toes due to mis-aligned bones, I have WAY more empathy for the condition than I did then (Also, hated Bird at the time - no longer do). Painful as hell when they go off - like, drop you to the floor and make you hold your breath type of painful.

我曾因為骨頭錯位導致我的兩個大腳趾都長了骨刺,比起以前的我(那時還討厭過伯德,現在再也不會了),現在的我對於這種病症太能理解了。每次疼痛發作時都痛苦至極——這種疼痛會讓你趴在地上打滾並讓你無法呼吸。


[–]henzrox19 78 指標 10小時前

What about the season with wilt Bill and Oscar but bill won it? The year when Oscar Robertson averaged a tribute dub, wilt put up 50 pts and 25 Reb, but bill scored like 18 and had like 20 something boards

不知這個賽季可否一戰:威爾特-張伯倫、比爾-拉塞爾和奧斯卡-羅伯特森爭奪MVP,最後比爾-拉塞爾拿下了MVP。那年奧斯卡-羅伯特森場均三雙,張伯倫場均50分25籃板,而拉塞爾場均只有18分和差不多20個籃板。

[–][MIL] Malcolm BrogdonRecalcitrantDuck 84 指標 9小時前

IMO it's the most stacked, Baylor came 4th with 38/19 and Pettit came 6th with 31/19

我認為這年才是最豪華的,埃爾金-貝勒場均38分19籃板位居票選第4,鮑勃-佩蒂特場均31分19籃板位居票選第6。

[–]rahulpresentskobe 31 指標 7小時前

drops 38/19. doesn't even finish top 3 feelsbad

場均38+19都進不了前三,我整個人都不好了。

[–]Jazz BandwagonDhylan18 42 指標 7小時前

He did only play 48 games that season because he was in the military and could only play on the weekends

不過貝勒在那個賽季只打了48場比賽,因為他當時還在部隊服役,所以只能週末打球。

[–][GSW] Andrew BogutDranzogger 36 指標 8小時前

too bad they were playing against geography teachers and travel agents

可是當年的那些傳奇球員的對手都是地理老師們和旅遊中介們呀。



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