「鍵盤俠」錫伯杜曾在季前賽讓JB打全場|老詹只有一個

「键盘侠」锡伯杜曾在季前赛让JB打全场|老詹只有一个

Back in 2012, Thibodeau played Jimmy Butler all 48 minutes in a preseason game against the Timberwolves

回溯到2012年,(時任公牛主帥的)錫伯杜曾在對陣森林狼的季前賽中,讓吉米-巴特勒打滿48分鐘。

Source: https://chicago.sbnation.com/2012/10/14/3501232/chicago-bulls-2012-jimmy-butler

With Deng getting a night off to rest a groin injury in Chicago's 82-75 preseason loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves Saturday, replacement Jimmy Butler stepped right into Deng's role, playing the entire 48 minutes.

新聞來源:https://chicago.sbnation.com/2012/10/14/3501232/chicago-bulls-2012-jimmy-butler

“在週六公牛以75-82不敵明尼蘇達森林狼的季前賽比賽中,魯爾-鄧因腹股溝傷勢缺陣,而頂替他出場的吉米-巴特勒則打滿了全部48分鐘。”

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[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum IntergalacticWZRD 2885 points 1 day ago

That’s absolutely ridiculous.

You know it’s kinda funny. My highschool coach was a real hard ass Former marine, he’s been coaching for 40+ years. Coached against Marcus Camby at the highschool level. He’s very similar to Thibs in style and demeanor and of course half way through my senior season we find out that him and Thibs are on first name basis with each other. They even had dinner when Thibs was in town playing the Celtics.

塔圖姆球迷:這真的是太無法無天了。

說起來也是搞人。我的高中教練是個作風非常硬派的前海軍陸戰隊員,他已經執教四十多個年頭了。曾帶隊對陣過高中時期的馬庫斯-坎比,他的執教風格和舉止和錫伯杜很相似。結果在我高三的賽季的中途,我們發現他和錫伯杜交情匪淺啊。錫伯杜帶隊來波士頓挑戰凱爾特人的時候,他們還共進晚餐……

[–]F7U12_ANALYSIS 940 points 1 day ago

Do you think he would’ve played jimmy butler 48 minutes in a preseason game?

你覺得你的高中教練會讓巴特勒在季前賽中打滿48分鐘嗎?

[–]Thunder carmelol_assthony 703 points 1 day ago

I feel like even a real-hard-ass-former-marine wouldn’t play Butler for 48 mins in a preseason game. That is absurd.

雷霆球迷:我是覺得,即便是一個混賬至極的前海軍陸戰隊員也不會在季前賽比賽中讓巴特勒打滿全場的。這太離譜了。

[–]Salami_On_Rye 166 points 1 day ago

I've been to a couple of preseason games over the years as there's no NBA team in my city. (Well, there was. Two of 'em in fact.) I've never seen a starter actually log minutes in the second half. And both times, at least one star was not even at the game.

As a fan of the sport, it would be cool to see a great player actually playing a full game in preseason. As a fan of the team, it would be stupefying.

這些年來,我還是去看過兩場季前賽比賽的,雖說我的城市沒有NBA球隊(好吧,曾經有,還有兩支呢:聖地亞哥火箭和快船)。我還從未看過哪個首發球員在下半場還上場的,並且至少有一名球星甚至都不會出場。

站在體育迷的立場看,看到球星在季前賽中打滿全場是很爽的。但要是隊粉的話,那就覺得是智障了。

[–]pubgplayer14 123 points 1 day ago

and that's why a lot of the starting bulls came out super injured or with chronic pains.

Thibs played them like workhorses because he's an idiot and to top it all off, the Bulls medical staff are the most incompetent group of trainers in all of sports. Check Luol Dengs story. That shit fucking SUCKS.

所以說,公牛的很多首發球員要麼重傷報廢,要麼傷病不斷。錫伯杜死命用他們,因為他自己是個二貨。除此之外,公牛的隊醫也是體育行業最不稱職的一幫人。看看魯爾-鄧的經歷就知道了。這事兒真踏馬操蛋。

[–]94savage 20 points 1 day ago

None of Thibs players hate him or think he ruined their careers. Stop making stuff up

錫伯杜執教過的球員裡,還沒任何人討厭他或者控訴錫伯杜毀了他們職業生涯的。你就別挑事兒了。

[–]Bulls Ar4bAce 27 points 1 day ago

Butler wasnt Jimmy Butler in 2012.

公牛球迷:2012年的巴特勒可沒有如今的地位。

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[–]Raptors Bowiescorvat2 1469 points 1 day ago

What the fuck. This guy has a fetish for Jimmy, if I was Jimmy I'd get the fuck away too

猛龍球迷:CTMD。這貨是不是對使用巴特勒有啥怪癖,要我是JB早特麼走人了。

[–]NBA dreamofbeans 569 points 1 day ago*

Maybe that’s how he gave Jimmy the confidence to improve. Maybe Luke should play Josh Hart 48min later he might turn into the next Jimmy

也許這就是錫伯杜給予巴特勒進步的信心的方式。也許沃頓以後也應該讓約什-哈特打滿48分鐘,這樣哈特就能成長為下一個巴特勒了。

[–]Bulls JR_Swiiish 382 points 1 day ago

Maybe he should play Wiggins for 48 every game for the rest of the year

公牛球迷:照你這麼說的話,那錫伯杜這個賽季每場比賽都該讓威金斯打滿48分鐘。

[–]username--_-- 62 points 1 day ago*

I feel like there is an argument on both sides for this. In 2012, Jimmy was just coming off a rookie year, as a 2nd late first round pick where he got almost no playing time.

Might as well give the guy as much playing time as possible in the preseason, when nothing matters, than in the regular season when every game matters. Plus Jimmy seems like the guy, who at the prove it stage of his career, would have been absolutely ecstatic at getting that type of opportunity.

我覺得這事兒還得一分為二的看待。畢竟在2012年的時候,巴特勒才結束自己的處子賽季,作為一個首輪末位秀,他幾乎沒啥上場時間。

倒不如在季前賽中儘量多給時間讓他上場,畢竟比賽也不打緊,總比在常規賽中每場比賽都很重要的時候去歷練他要好吧。何況巴特勒那會兒還處在急需證明自己的階段,能夠得到那種機會,他肯定是求之不得的。

[–]Splashshots 960 points 1 day ago*

Do be fair in 2012 Jimmy was just in his second season and didn’t play a ton as a rookie. It’s not like Thibs was playing one of his star players 48 minutes, he was playing a young guy to give him more experience.

Edit: Guys I realize he still shouldn’t be playing anyone 48 minutes a game let alone in the preseason. I’m just trying to put some context out there.

有句講句啊,2012年的巴特勒還只是職業生涯的第二個賽季,他在菜鳥賽季又沒啥上場機會。錫伯杜又不是讓自己手下的哪個球星打滿48分鐘,他只是讓一個年輕隊員積累更多的比賽經驗啊。

補充說明:各位老哥,我知道他不該在一場比賽中讓任何人死操48分鐘,更別提季前賽了。我只是想交代一下事情的背景。

[–]Thunder jd_beats 276 points 1 day ago

I was about to post this... Jimmy didn’t take off until really the next year after this... 48 minutes is probably too much, but giving big playing time to a guy that still needs lots of experiences to develop into a great player isn’t that weird.

雷霆球迷:我也打算說這事兒來著……巴特勒正是在這之後的一個賽季才迎來飛躍的……或許48分鐘太多了,但是給予這麼一位急需比賽經驗的年輕球員如此充足的上場時間,好讓他成長起來,這也沒啥大驚小怪的吧。

[–][DEN] Nikola Jokic RedSoxEatPoop 90 points 1 day ago

48 minutes is 48 minutes though dawg...in a preseason game that is insane.

[–][MIL] Michael Redd philosophickle 232 points 1 day ago

約基奇球迷:但那可是48分鐘啊,哥……還是在季前賽中,這真是荒唐。

[–]Magic Herakleios 31 points 1 day ago

Eh... I think playing ANYONE 48 minutes in a preseason game is insane.

Honestly, playing someone more than 30 minutes in a preseason game is also kind of crazy... I feel like one of the big points of preseason is to try a bunch of different lineups and see just how deep your bench really is...

魔術球迷:呃……反正我就覺得任何人在季前賽裡打滿48分鐘都是很離譜的。

老實說,任何人在季前賽中出場超過30分鐘就有點瘋狂了……我覺得季前賽重要的一點意義在於,嘗試幾套不同的首發,看看球隊的板凳深度如何……

[–][MIL] Michael Redd philosophickle 232 points 1 day ago

Playing 48 minutes drastically increases your chances of injury. It's just unprofessional and dangerous to play someone-- anyone-- that long.

裡德球迷:打滿48分鐘就會增加受傷的幾率。讓任何球員打這麼長的時間,這種做法非常不職業,也很危險。

[–]Raptors Astro_Sloth 86 points 1 day ago

Except LeBron James

猛龍球迷:除了勒布朗-詹姆斯

[–]Jazzs altnvinegar26 100 points 1 day ago

Lebron isn’t mortal though.

爵士球迷:但是勒布朗不是凡人啊。

[–]Knicks CoilConductor 32 points 1 day ago

honestly LeBron is just hard to bench

尼克斯球迷:講真,勒布朗真的很難坐板凳。

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[–]JohnParish 143 points 1 day ago

I would think even if that was the regular season, it would be absurd. If you are Lebron in the playoffs, sure, play the whole game, otherwise, nobody should be playing the whole game in this day and age unless everything is on the line.

"Thibodeau also noted that he could get away with playing Butler big minutes because Butler has worked hard on his conditioning this offseason." that's such a load of shit man. Nothing was on the line.

即便不是季前賽而是常規賽,我覺得打滿48分鐘也是荒唐的。如果你是季後賽裡的詹姆斯,那沒毛病,可以打滿全場,否則,這個年代沒有任何人應該去打滿全場,除非形勢所逼。

至於那種“錫伯杜還指出,他讓巴特勒打那麼多的時間而毫髮無損是因為JB休賽期訓練有方”的說法,這特麼純粹扯淡。季前賽裡還有啥要緊的?

[–]Knicks diablofreak 20 points 1 day ago

Everything was on the line for that pre season game. Maybe he had all his money in Vegas.

(Can you gamble on a preseason game)

尼克斯球迷:季前賽怎麼就不重要了?也許他在拉斯維加斯押下了全部家業呢。

(季前賽能下注嗎?)

[–]76ers ManSoldWorld 72 points 1 day ago

Thibodeau is just a pure competitor, but in the worst possible way. He has that vision of basketball perfection, but he goes about it like a dumbass: playing your players into the ground

76人球迷:錫伯杜純粹就是個競爭者,不過是以那種最糟糕的方式。他非常追求完美,但他的方式就像個傻X一樣:死命糟蹋球員。

[–]jtsports272 20 points 1 day ago

He is just plain stupid : people are not robots there is a point where everyone gets tired and performance declines

這貨蠢得無藥可救了:球員又不是機器人,到了臨界點就會因疲憊而表現乏力的。

[–][SAS] Matt Bonner bb1432 302 points 1 day ago

I was on the Thibs is a shitty coach because of his rotations train for at least that long.

I welcome the company.

邦納球迷:我在那會兒就堅持認為錫伯杜是個水貨教練了,因為他的輪換菜的不行。

歡迎加入我的陣營。

[–][DAL] Dennis Rodman wonderboy0 516 points 1 day ago

This is bordering on unhealthy obsession and Jimmy needs to get the fuck outta there

羅德曼球迷:他對巴特勒的迷戀有些病態了,JB趕緊走人吧。

[–]Pistons drcash360-2ndaccount 292 points 1 day ago

Pour one out for D Rose and Loul Deng

活塞球迷:為羅斯和魯爾-鄧感到難過。

[–]Rolodox 150 points 1 day ago

This guy Thibs killed DRose 3 years into his career smh

這貨在羅斯的職業生涯第三年就把他用廢了……

[–]Pistons drcash360-2ndaccount 133 points 1 day ago

Up double digits in game 1 with 1 minute left....

系列賽第一場(2012年季後賽首輪公牛vs76人,公牛領先12分的時候羅斯左膝蓋前交叉韌帶撕裂)只剩一分鐘領先兩位數的情況下羅斯還在場上……

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant Malificari 101 points 1 day ago

that wil forever triggered me. fuck that game and fuck thibs. i called that injury too when i was watching the game with my brother.

科比球迷:這是我永遠的痛。傻X比賽,傻X錫伯杜。我和哥們兒看那場比賽的時候就覺得羅斯可能會受傷。

[–]Bulls LeZygo 13 points 1 day ago

He likes to grind players into dust. He did D-Rose's career no favors.

公牛球迷:他就喜歡玩命地用球員。他對羅斯的職業生涯沒有任何幫助。

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