[Sefko] Luka Doncic is No. 2 in Western Conference front-court voting for All-Star Game, to which Dirk Nowitzki said: "It’s Luka-mania. It’s real.
He definitely deserves to be up there. I’m not sure in front of KD and all these guys. But he’s been tremendously efficient and consistent."
據NBA記者EddieSefko報道，盧卡-東契奇目前在全明星首輪投票中得票數高居西部前場球員第二。對此，德克-諾維茨基回應道：“這就是盧卡熱度。這是真實的。他絕對配得上那個位置。我不確定他是否可以排在杜蘭特和那些人之前，不過他這個賽季一直都非常的高效和穩定。”
Dirk had a famously terrible rookie year (8/3/1 on 49.1 TS%) for an all-time great, as he adjusted to the culture shock of living in the US as well as playing for an abysmal Mavericks team coming out of some of the most hapless years in professional sports. He has repeatedly said how he wasn't surprised that Luka's hit the ground running on his rookie year, given the assortment of accolades Luka racked up during his escapades in Europe.
對於諾維茨基這樣一位足以載入史冊的球員而言，他的處子賽季是出了名地差（8+3+1，真實命中率49.1%），因為他當時要從來美國生活所面對的文化衝擊中調整過來，而且他當時所效力的獨行俠更是一團糟，球隊正在從隊史上最為倒黴的那段時期中走出陰影。諾維茨基已經多次表示過，他對於東契奇處子賽季就能迅速打出水準並不感到驚訝，畢竟後者在歐洲就已經斬獲了各種榮譽。
That said, he appears to be conscious of the fact that while Luka's rookie year (20/7/5 on 56.8 TS%) deserves to be in the honorable mentions for All-Star, it's very much a popularity contest. Certainly, Luka's outsized following given his manic fandom overseas has contributed to his earning more votes than bonafide all-NBA players.
話雖如此，諾維茨基似乎也明白，儘管東契奇在處子賽季的表現（20+7+5，真實命中率56.8%）配得上進入全明星的榮譽候選人之列，但這大部分還是拜他的人氣所賜。可以肯定的是，東契奇的票數之所以能領先他身後那些實打實的頂級球星，他在海外的那些狂熱粉絲是貢獻了很大力量的。
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[–]i-am-the-law-bitch 15 points 17 hours ago
No he doesn’t
不，他還配不上全明星。
[–]NBA urfaselol 699 points 16 hours ago
I don't think he'll get enough player and media votes to get it
我不覺得他能從球員和媒體手中得到足夠的票數，從而進入全明星。
[–]Lakers jonsnowKITN 237 points 16 hours ago
That's why the players and media also vote as well. This sub needs to relax.
湖人球迷：所以球員和媒體也要投票啊。這個專區的某些人真得淡定點了。
[–]Suns isetmyfriendsonfire 20 points 11 hours ago
Same people that post the hourly ‘Luka All Star?’ probably complain about Zion and Trae coverage on espn
太陽球迷：每隔一個小時就發帖說‘盧卡全明星’的也是這些人吧？或許他們也會不爽ESPN對錫安和特雷-楊的報道。
[–]Clippers TheFurgusShow 154 points 14 hours ago
You never know with player votes, Booker was near the top of player voting last year and so far all I see other players do is praise Luka (such as LeBron mentioning him on players he'd like to play with)
快船球迷：球員投票也說不清啊，布克上賽季差點就成了球員投票中的票王，而且目前為止，我看到其他球員對盧卡的評價就只有讚賞（比如說詹姆斯就表示想跟他一起打球）。
[–]Mavericks shaheedmalik 78 points 12 hours ago
KD, AD, LD.
獨行俠球迷：KD，AD，LD
[–][SAS] Manu Ginobili Shewshake 26 points 11 hours ago
Lebron has to get some kinda D to play with
吉諾比利球迷：勒布朗必須要和某個D合作啊。
[–]Paper BoyGleesh 31 points 11 hours ago
D wight Howard
D懷特-霍華德。
[–]Paper BoyGleesh 7 points 11 hours ago
Never had a big man that can smack balls like him or javale so that’s cool
他還從沒和霍華德這種強力內線合作過啊，所以這個想法很酷。
[–]Mavericks Aikidi 1 point an hour ago
Rip Tristan
獨行俠球迷：安息吧，特里斯坦-湯普森
[–]Warriors MacDerfus 64 points 13 hours ago
I think rose will get player votes
勇士球迷：我覺得羅斯會得到球員選票。
[–]Mavericks gigantism[S] 330 points 16 hours ago
Luka doesn't deserve to go let alone start, but he definitely deserves an honorable mention along with guys like Klay, Gallinari, Conley, Gasol, Gobert, Capela, Adams, Booker, Fox, Murray, etc.
But Luka's definitely a more justifiable vote than a guy like Rose, Wade, or Zaza.
獨行俠球迷：盧卡還配不上，更別說首發了，不過他絕對配得上和克萊、加里納尼、康利、加索爾、戈貝爾、卡佩拉、亞當斯、布克、福克斯、穆雷等人一起被當做全明星候選人。
不過比起羅斯、韋德和扎扎這些人，東契奇絕對更有理由得到選票。
[–]Knicks ianiandinosour 11 points 13 hours ago
If All Star selections are based on performance and popularity then I think Luka probably should make it over those guys. I know these things tend to be given out as previous season achievement awards, but if Luka is generating this much hype, then I think he deserves it. And let’s face it, seeing Luka in the All Star Game would be fuckin wild
尼克斯球迷：如果全明星陣容是基於個人表現和受歡迎的程度，那我覺得東契奇或許能勝出這些人入選。我知道大家容易參考過往賽季的成就和獎項，不過東契奇現在正掀起一股熱潮啊，那我就覺得他應該入選。面對現實吧，在全明星賽場看到東契奇的演出肯定會特麼的很炸。
[–]humachine 11 points 14 hours ago
I'm not entirely sure Klay should be there.
我都不能完全確定克萊應該入選。
[–][GSW] Stephen Curry GoldenStateWizards 3 points 4 hours ago
He shouldn't
勇士球迷：他不應該。
[–][MIA] Anfernee Hardaway ChaseH9499 288 points 15 hours ago
Look, if washed up, chucking 2016 Kobe made the ASG then there’s no reason Wade shouldn’t either
熱火球迷：聽著，要說球星實力大跌的話，2016年那個職業生涯暮年的科比都能入選全明星，憑啥韋德就不能。
[–]ImanShumpertplus 34 points 14 hours ago
Kobe was the face of the league at one point. Dwyane can’t even get his name spelled right. Kobe is in a different stratosphere
科比當時還是聯盟的門面啊。韋德的名字甚至都不能被拼對。科比已經是另一個層面了。
[–][SAS] Manu Ginobili papa_sax 138 points 15 hours ago
It sets a precedent to start voting in washed up players just because past accomplishments. Personally I don't care for All Star votes, but I can see why some have issue with it
吉諾比利球迷：就因為科比過往的成就，他為暮年球員入選全明星開了先例。就個人而言，我不在乎全明星投票，不過我能理解為啥有些人對此不爽。
[–][DEN] Chris Andersen ObeseKenyan 76 points 13 hours ago
It's not going to be overrun by washed up players, every 2 or 3 years there will be 1 HoFer who gets in and plays 10 mins. I'm fine with it. They need to be on a farewell tour (but I guess that's getting more and more common)
掘金球迷：全明星不會有大批過氣球星入選的，每隔兩三年，會有一個未來的名人堂成員入選，然後打上10分鐘。我覺得還行。他們得有個告別演出嘛（不過我覺得這種現象越來越普遍了）。
[–]Celtics ken_riffy 33 points 14 hours ago
I think it'll be fun to have him in the game & he definitely has a career that deserves to be honored. I just wish he wasn't taking someone else's spot.
凱爾特人球迷：我覺得韋德入選全明星會很有意思的，而且就憑他的生涯成就，他是配得上這份榮耀的。只是我希望他不會搶了其他人的風頭。
[–]Celtics ken_riffy 39 points 14 hours ago
Definitely. I'd love to have him & Dirk trading fadeaways in the All Star game as long as two deserving players wouldn't get snubbed.
凱爾特人球迷：肯定的。我想看到他和諾維茨基在全明星上切磋後仰跳投，只要那兩個本該被關注的球員沒有被大家冷落就行。
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[–]Raptors FindingUsernamesSuck 204 points 14 hours ago
Am I the only one who thought Luka was a guard?
猛龍球迷：只有我一個人以為盧卡是後衛嗎？
[–]Mavericks PourGnawgraphy 116 points 14 hours ago
He started the year playing the 3 spot, but he's definitely gravitated to being a guard as the season has gone on. Thankfully.
獨行俠球迷：他賽季初打得是3號位，不過他隨著賽季的深入，他絕對是打成了後衛。謝天謝地。
[–]Mavericks amazin_raisin99 14 points 13 hours ago
He was actually playing and guarding the 4 with HB at the 3, still does sometimes
獨行俠球迷：實際上他有時候打得是4號位，巴恩斯在3號位。
[–]Mavericks shaheedmalik 42 points 12 hours ago
Luka is the starting PF.
獨行俠球迷：東契奇是我們的首發大前。
[–]Mavericks PourGnawgraphy 64 points 12 hours ago
Much like Ben Simmons is for Philly. Similar roles.
獨行俠球迷：很像費城的本-西蒙斯。角色類似吧
[–][DAL] Dennis Rodman Indiana_BROnes_ 196 points 15 hours ago
ITT: r/NBA loves Luka, but hates Luka fans
獨行俠球迷：這個專區的人很愛東契奇，不過討厭東契奇的粉絲。
[–]Mavericks stoogemuffin 118 points 14 hours ago
We hate ourselves.
獨行俠球迷：我們這是討厭自己。
[–]Suns hoops_n_politics 30 points 12 hours ago
Serious question here:
What percentage of Luka fans are actually Mavs fans? My thought is a substantial percentage of Luka’s most vocal fans on this sub are not even Mavs fans.
Not sure if that even matters, it’s just something I’m curious about.
太陽球迷：有個很正經的問題：
東契奇球迷中有多少是真正的獨行俠球迷呢？我覺得這個專區裡那些聲稱盧卡球迷的人裡，大部分都不是獨行俠球迷。
不知道這個問題是否重要，只是我感興趣。
[–]Celtics redrumsoxLoL 33 points 12 hours ago
Anecdotally, one right here. I do live in Texas (Houston, but still Texas). I don't particularly like the Mavericks, but I love Luka because he is just one of the most fun players to watch and root for at the moment.
凱爾特人球迷：我就是啊。雖說我住在德克薩斯（休斯頓，可還是在德克薩斯啊）我真不喜歡獨行俠，不過我喜歡盧卡。因為他是眼下最具觀賞性和最值得支持的球員之一。
[–]Hawks ATLjoe93 29 points 13 hours ago
It only gets ridiculous when some fans put down other players to raise the kid up. It's really off-putting.
I saw a thread the other day where Sixers fans were downvoted for suggesting that they'd prefer to keep Simmons if hypothetically they could have Luka. That is absurd.
老鷹球迷：有些球迷為了捧他而貶低其他球員，這真的離譜了。真的蠻反感。
前天我看到了一個帖子，76人球迷說哪怕有理論上的可能得到東契奇，他們還是更願意留住西蒙斯，就因為這，他們被狂踩。這太荒唐了。
[–]Mlerma21 9 points 12 hours ago
This isn't new or exclusive to Doncic though. Mitchell and Simmons last year was the exact same. There are shitty fans and there are good fans. Real Mavs fans mom
這也不是啥新鮮事，也不止在東契奇一個人身上有。上賽季的米切爾和西蒙斯也是這種情況。
[–]srabon98akter 42 points 16 hours ago
I love watching Luka play but he has 0 business being up there with the likes of Bron and KD.
我喜歡看東契奇打球，不過他還沒資格和勒布朗、杜蘭特這些人一起進入全明星。
[–]twasjc 71 points 15 hours ago
Ya he should be way ahead of them
是啊，他應該遠遠超出他們的。
[–]Riptansky 17 points 13 hours ago
To be fair, Luka's game is fair more enjoyable to watch than KD's, imo, don't get me wrong, KD is obviously a better player, but i used the word "enjoyable".
公平地說，我覺得盧卡的比賽遠比杜蘭特的好看吧，別誤解我，很顯然杜蘭特更強，不過我用了“觀賞性”這個詞。
[–]TraeYoungROTY 13 points 9 hours ago*
Kevin Durant is an all time top 5-10 scorer. You're entitled to your opinion, but I really don't see how you can think this.
杜蘭特可是史上前5-前10的得分手啊。你有權發表自己的觀點，不過我真的不知道你怎麼能這麼想。
[–]Riptansky 5 points 8 hours ago
Enjoyable.
觀賞性啊。
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[–]jaysphan128 204 points 16 hours ago
weird that people are freaking out about doncic and not rose lol
大家對東契奇的全明星得票排名這麼抓狂，卻對羅斯的得票沒啥反應，奇怪啊哈哈哈
[–]Lakers TheLeBrontoRaptors 78 points 15 hours ago
Because one is a rookie and the other a former MVP with a “tragic narrative” and a huge stanbase
湖人球迷：因為東契奇只是個菜鳥，而另一個是命途多舛的昔日MVP，而且還有很龐大的粉絲群體。
[–]Trail Blazers matrixreloaded 35 points 14 hours ago
why is it weird? everyone expects Rose to be up there seeing as he’s a former MVP, international superstar and currently sparking quite a comeback year.
nobody expected Doncic to be up there, also he’s a rookie, it’s amazing he’s gotten more votes than the likes of KD, Davis, Harden...
開拓者球迷：怎麼就奇怪了啊？大家都期待著在全明星上看到羅斯，畢竟身為國際級球星的他是昔日的MVP，而且這個賽季狀態復甦顯著。
沒人期待東契奇入選全明星，正因為他只是個菜鳥，他能夠得到比杜蘭特、戴維斯和哈登這些人還多的選票已經很了不起了。
[–]West Kurosawasuperfan 46 points 13 hours ago
And still, Doncic is putting similar numbers but with more impact (clutch moments, gravity, assists) in a team with better record, in which he's the best player.
I'm not shitting on Derrick Rose, but it's not like he's a clear all-star and Doncic is not even close.
還是那回事，東契奇的數據和羅斯差不多，不過球隊的戰績更好，他在隊內的影響力更大（關鍵時刻、助攻），是隊內最佳球員。
我並非在說羅斯的不是，不過他也不是板上釘釘的全明星啊，東契奇也還差的遠。
[–]Celtics enderlord2 7 points 15 hours ago
Which ones playing better?
凱爾特人球迷：誰的數據更好？
[–]West tr45hbin 21 points 13 hours ago
Rose: 18.9/2.8/4.8 PIE: 12.9 Doncic: 19.5/6.6/5.0 PIE: 13.4
羅斯：18.9+2.8+4.8，東契奇：19.5+6.6+5
[–]-Zaytoven- 10 points 13 hours ago
Neither deserve to make it obviously, Luka has more of a case than D rose though.
But, Lukas votes are from hype
D rose’s votes are from respect to a legend reinventing his career
他倆誰都不該進全明星，不過盧卡的表現更好啊。
但是呢，盧卡的選票都是眼下的熱度。
而羅斯的選票則是來自大家的情懷。
[–]Suns TheLeBrontoRaptorss 19 points 13 hours ago
Neither SHOULD be in, but likely rose will make it and doncic won’t, or neither make it, no scenario where both are in
太陽球迷：兩個人都不該入選，不過很可能最終羅斯入選，東契奇沒有，或者兩人都沒入選，肯定不可能兩個人都入選。
[–]Lakers LukeSkyreader811 23 points 12 hours ago
Guards in the west are way too stacked for Rose to make it I feel like.
Curry, Westbrook, Lillard, Harden, Booker, Holiday, McCollum and even Conley are all above him I feel like.
湖人球迷：西部的後衛太多了啊，我覺得羅斯很難入選。
我覺得庫裡、威少、利拉德、哈登、布克、霍樂迪、麥科勒姆這些人，甚至連康利都在他之前。
[–]Suns TheLeBrontoRaptorss 8 points 12 hours ago
I agree, but with how high his fan vote is, plus I’m sure he’ll get some vote from players and coaches, who knows, not saying it’s likely, but possible
太陽球迷：我同意。不過他的球迷票數很高啊，而且我確信他還能從球員和教練手中得到選票，誰知道呢，不能說他不可能，還是有可能的。
[–]Lakers so-cal_kid 161 points 16 hours ago
Rose is like China's foreign son so it makes sense
湖人球迷：羅斯就像是中國人的外國兒子，所以你說的有道理。
[–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 25 points 10 hours ago
Rose is the Lebron of China
猛龍球迷：羅斯在中國的熱度就像是勒布朗。
[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram NotAWallabie 4 points 9 hours ago
Rose is the new McGrady of China
湖人球迷：羅斯在中國就是新麥迪。
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[–][SAS] Boris Diaw YOU_PM_ME_THIGHS 37 points 16 hours ago*
He's not that far outside the top 30 players. I'd probably put him somewhere in that 35-50 range and he seems quite popular. Probably doesn't quite deserve AS status yet but he's not far off
Edit:
He's 34th in points per game, 30th in assts per game, 42nd in BPM, 33rd in VORP, 63rd in PER and rebounds well for a point forward. I'd say those stats back him up being somewhere in the 35-50 range.
馬刺球迷：東契奇在前30開外不遠。我或許會把他排在35到50的位置，而且他貌似很受歡迎啊。或許他還不是很配得上全明星，不過他也不遠啊。
編輯：他的場均得分排在聯盟第34，場均助攻第30，BPM排第42，VORP值（球員對球隊的重要性）第33，PER值第63，而且他作為組織型前鋒籃板也很出色。所以我才覺得他在35到50位之間。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant mobious_trip 34 points 14 hours ago
dude is an all star maybe not all nba at this point.
the most hyped highlights from the season I’ve seen so far are from Luka hands down
科比球迷：這哥們兒或許是個全明星，但現在還不是頂級。
這個賽季我看過的最燃的集錦就是東契奇的，大寫的服氣。
[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook jumpman0035 93 points 14 hours ago
it's all star game. Isn't the whole point of the weekend for the fans?
All-star appearances shouldnt count for your legacy, and should be 100% fan vote.
I know Vince Carter is not an all-star anymore, but ill vote for him every year because i wanna see him play.
If so many people wanna see Luka in the allstar game, then let him be in it lol
Now if it was for all NBA or MVP or whatever, then yes of course those are the ones that are stat and record based, but allstar SHOULD be fan votes imo.
雷霆球迷：這可是全明星比賽。難道這個週末的全部意義不就是為了球迷嗎？
全明星人選不應該依賴你的成就，而是完全的球迷投票。
我知道卡特不再是全明星了，不過我每年都會給他投票，因為我想看他打。
如果真有那麼多人想在全明星上看到東契奇，那就讓他進唄，哈哈哈
如果咱們說的是賽季最佳陣容或者是MVP之類的獎項，那當然是依據數據和戰績來定的，沒毛病，不過我覺得全明星應該由粉絲投票決定。
[–][POR] Damian Lillards omethingnotyettaken 22 points 11 hours ago
I learned this lesson with Kobe, Blake Griffin and LaMarcus Aldridge. Almost all of us were outraged that Kobe got on the All-Star team multiple years when his game had drastically declined to sub All-Star levels. I also felt that LMA should be in above Blake Griffin, and felt like him being a flashy dunker got him more attention, but that LMA was the better player.
Finally LMA made the All-Star game...and my god was it disappointing. Like, what did I expect this guy to do during the All-Star game? While Blake Griffin might have been a fraction less talented than LMA (which is debatable), Blake was exponentially more fun to watch in the All-Star game. And just seeing Kobe interact with all of the players was more fun than LMA being on the team.
開拓者球迷：我當初從科比、格里芬和阿爾德里奇身上明白了不少。科比那些年能力大幅下滑到全明星水準之下時，幾乎咱們所有人都因為他還能連續幾年入選全明星而憤怒。我還覺得當年阿德應該在格里芬之前入選呢，我知道格里芬扣將的身份讓他得到了更多的關注，但是阿德當時更強啊。
最終阿德進入全明星了……然後呢，我的天吶，太讓人失望了。比如說，我期望這哥們兒在全明星上做什麼呢？雖說格里芬的天賦略輸阿德（有爭議的），不過格里芬在全明星上的表現要好看多了啊。而且光是看著科比在場上與那些球員互動就比阿德在隊裡有意思多了。
[–][OKC] Russell Westbrook jumpman0035 15 points 11 hours ago
Yeah like i love westbrook and he might not be a top 5 or sometimes top 10 nba player depending on who you ask. But he is a top 1 or 2 player during allstar night. Thats what i wanna see.
雷霆球迷：沒錯，就比如說我喜歡威少，他或許不是前五甚至前10 球員（看你問誰了）。不過他在全明星上就是前1前2的。這就是我想看的。
[–][POR] Damian Lillards omethingnotyettaken 7 points 10 hours ago
I hate Westbrook but otherwise completely agree.
開拓者球迷：我討厭威少，不過我完全贊同你的觀點。
[–]East technosucks 9 points 12 hours ago
I 100% agree with your point but sadly, All-Star games are counted for one's legacy.
完全贊同，不過可悲的是，全明星人選要看球員的過往成就。
[–]Mavericks ForcadoUALG 11 points 16 hours ago
100% agree that he shouldn't be a starter, and hardly a reserve. But definitely deserves a shout. He has plenty of time to be in the ASG.
獨行俠球迷：我也完全贊同東契奇不該成為全明星首發，哪怕是替補也很難。不過絕對配得上進入候選。他還有得是時間衝擊全明星。
[–]Thunder eldingobebe 13 points 13 hours ago
Imagine caring about the all-star game.
It’s been a farce for so long.
雷霆球迷：還有人關心全明星啊……
不是說長期以來都是鬧劇嘛
[–]Trail Blazers correalvinicius 22 points 12 hours ago
It's not a farce, it's entertainment, it's not meant to choose the 24 best players in the league. All NBA teams serve that purpose
開拓者球迷：不是鬧劇，這是娛樂，並不是意味著選擇聯盟最頂尖的24個球員。只有賽季最佳陣容才能滿足這個目的。
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