諾維茨基祝賀納什基德入選名人堂,巔峯期的二人哪個更配德克?

[Nowitzki] On way to Springfield. So proud of my guys nashy and jkidd. It's an honor to say I played with two hall of famers! Unfortunately neither was in their prime....

諾維茨基發推祝賀基德和納什入選名人堂:“我在前往春田(NBA名人堂所在地)的路上。為我的兄弟納什和基德感到驕傲。曾經和兩位名人堂成員並肩作戰過是一種榮耀!可惜那時候的他們都不在巔峰期……

諾維茨基祝賀納什基德入選名人堂,巔峰期的二人哪個更配德克?

諾維茨基祝賀納什基德入選名人堂,巔峰期的二人哪個更配德克?


[–]Celticsripmeleedair 590 指標 11小時前*

Yo i live 35 minutes from the hall of fame how do i go meet dirk

Update: tickets are very expensive to attend these events :(

哎呦我去,我的住處離名人堂就三十五分鐘的車程,我怎麼才能見到德克啊。

更新:票太貴了,參與不起。:(

[–]CelticsMaxidaz 314 指標 10小時前

Serious answer wear nice clothes, go to MGM this weekend, walk around with a drink in your hand and look for him.

不開玩笑的講:穿件好的,這週末去趟米高梅賭場,手裡拿杯喝的到處走走看看,尋摸尋摸他。

[–]WarriorsMacatros 201 指標 10小時前*

Yo remember that guy who snuck into some NBA event and met LeBron and shit? I forget what event that was, but yeah just be like that guy lol

哎大家還記得那個溜進某NBA活動得以見到詹姆斯的哥們了嗎?我忘了是什麼活動了,但是沒錯,學那個人的做法就行了。

[–]MavericksAikidi 123 指標 9小時前

There was that one guy who just wore a suit with a utah jazz hat (and was also like 6'10" and in shape) and acted like he had been drafted for an evening.

It went pretty well.

之前有個哥們在選秀大會那天晚上穿了套西裝,戴著個猶他爵士的帽子(而且還有大概2米08高,身材不差),直接就冒充新秀去了。

而且進展還真挺不賴。

[–][TOR] Donyell MarshallPSChris33 87 指標 8小時前

Tbf, it was a tall white guy. The only way it could’ve been more believable is if he wore a Hornets hat.

公平地講,那可是個大個白人。他如果戴的是黃蜂的帽子那就更逼真了。[譯註1]

[譯註1]猶他白人人口占絕對主導位置。第二句話調侃的是黃蜂對白人大個子的偏愛。

諾維茨基祝賀納什基德入選名人堂,巔峰期的二人哪個更配德克?


[–]ClippersCunt_Bucket_ 56 指標 9小時前

諾維茨基祝賀納什基德入選名人堂,巔峰期的二人哪個更配德克?

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 668 指標 11小時前

Unfortunately neither was in their prime....

/ded

可惜那時候的他們都不在巔峰期……

哈哈哈笑死我了。

[–]Spurs4675029 367 指標 12小時前

"Hit me" - JKidd

“撞我。”——傑森-基德。

諾維茨基祝賀納什基德入選名人堂,巔峰期的二人哪個更配德克?

[–][SAS] Kawhi Leonardfirstbornsun 225 指標 10小時前

As someone who didn't start seriously following the NBA until 2011-2012, it always surprises me when I remember that the Mavericks had both Jason Kidd and Steve Nash at separate times and they weren't able pair either of them with Dirk for longer than a few years.

作為一個從2011-12賽季才開始認認真真追NBA比賽的球迷,我是真不敢相信獨行俠曾經在不同時期擁有過傑森-基德和史蒂夫-納什,而且這倆人跟諾維茨基搭檔的時間都不長。

[–][WAS] Moses Maloneburnerfret 130 指標 10小時前

In my head, I always think that Nash was part of the trade from Phoenix to Dallas for Kidd, and then I have to correct myself.

在我印象裡,我一直都以為納什是基德從獨行俠被交易到太陽的籌碼一部分呢,後來我不得不糾正我的想法。

The amount of team overlap between Nash, Kidd (and Marbury and Cassell because of the Suns/Nets trades) is really quirky, especially with Kidd going Dallas/PHX/Dallas over the course of his career, and Nash doing PHX/Dallas/PHX, but they never overlapped or were directly traded for each other.

納什與基德(因為太陽與籃網的交易的緣故,還要算上馬布裡跟卡塞爾)所效力過的相同球隊多到離奇,特別是基德的職業生涯軌跡是獨行俠->太陽->獨行俠,而納什的軌跡則是太陽->獨行俠->太陽,但是他們從未效力過一支球隊,也不曾直接互換東家。

[–]NetsNJNetsFan5152433 76 指標 10小時前

Jason Kidd and Steve Nash were actually teammates for the shortest time! I think during Nash's rookie season in Phoenix

But still it gives me a headache on where they ended up and what team they played on and when

傑森-基德和史蒂夫-納什實際上當過很短一段時間的隊友!我記得是納什在太陽的新秀賽季。

但是我還是搞不清他們後來是在哪兒落腳的,他們又是在什麼時候為哪支球隊效力的。


[–]Lakerstimtjb 1724 指標 11小時前

That said, which prime would fit in better with prime Nowitzki?

湖人球迷:那問題來了:巔峰的納什和巔峰基德誰更搭巔峰諾維茨基呢?

[–][ATL] Dikembe MutomboRazorXFireHD 910 指標 11小時前

They are both amazing facilitators, they could both work with Dirk phenomenally. And Nash got good later in life while Dirk got his championship later, so Nash would be able to help that 2011 run as well as some runs in years similar

他們都是梳理進攻的大師,所以他們跟諾維茨基合作的效果都會很好。而且納什在後來愈發出色,而諾維茨基也是職業生涯偏後的階段拿到了總冠軍,所以納什能夠幫助到2011年的那支獨行俠,其他年份的司機也同樣可以得到同期納什的巨大輔助。

[–]Wizardsasdfdsfhf 987 指標 9小時前*

You make very astute points here, but Steve Nash doesn't beat his wife so I'm going to have to give him this one.

樓上列出的幾點都有理有據,但是史蒂夫-納什不揍老婆,所以我要選他。

[–]Sunsboognerd 496 指標 8小時前

We're talking about how they affect Dirk, not their own personal lives. Nothing indicates Kidd would have beat Dirk's wife.

咱討論的是他們會如何影響諾維茨基,而不是他們自己的個人生活。沒有任何跡象表明基德會揍諾維茨基的媳婦啊。

[–][TOR] Fred VanVleetDinksandDonks 332 指標 8小時前

I mean, Kidd was an expert distributor. He could've found a way.

這個嘛,基德是個梳理進攻的大師。他絕對會找到方法把諾維茨基老婆也揍了的。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingrambreakfastburrito24 48 指標 9小時前

Nash's back went out around 2012 though.

湖人球迷:不過納什的背部在2012左右就歇菜了。

[–][ATL] Dikembe MutomboRazorXFireHD 95 指標 9小時前

Yeah but imagine prime, 2007-08 Nash with Dirk for the next few years until he gets back injuries. That would be a sick duo. They both space the floor really well and the Dirk/Nash Pick n roll/pop would be nuts

是,但是想想巔峰期的他呀,2007-08賽季的納什跟司機一起在未來幾年搭檔,一直到他受背傷煩擾為止。那會是對兒恐怖的二人組啊。他們二人在場上製造空間的能力都很強,諾維茨基跟納什之間的擋拆會非常有威懾力的。

[–]Knickshigher_please 53 指標 9小時前

Nash in 2012 was still 10x times better than jj barea in 2011. Although JJ was incredible in the playoffs

2012年的納什照樣比2011年的JJ-巴里亞強10倍好麼。雖說巴里亞在那年季後賽裡的表現真的是很不可思議。

[–]WarriorsMacDerfus 62 指標 8小時前

I think of you're gonna compare Nash to anyone on the 2011 squad, it should be Kidd

我覺得你要是想把納什跟2011年獨行俠的成員比較的話,也應該拿基德比啊。

[–]SpursApplecakesMcGee 112 指標 7小時前

We already did that. Nash doesn’t beat his wife, Kidd does. Keep up.

我們已經比完了啊。納什不揍老婆,基德揍。跟上進度好不好啊老哥。

[–]Kekukoka 84 指標 5小時前*

Nash's wife also doesn't beat him, or throw things at him, or send their children into his locker room to steal and go through his phones, or install trackers on his cars/computer, or go to games to heckle him, or threaten to file false domestic abuse reports.

可是納什的妻子也不揍納什啊,也不向他扔東西,也不會把孩子送進納什的更衣室偷他的手機翻閱東西,也不會往他的汽車或者電腦上裝追蹤器,也不去比賽現場騷擾他,也沒有威脅說要報假警誣告納什*河蟹*他。

Kidd was the one filing restraining orders and demanding the divorce. The only thing on the record against Kidd is that he slapped her after she started yelling at and hitting him for eating a single french fry off a plate he had just made for their kid.

基德才是那個向法庭提出人身限制令要求離婚的一方。記錄上唯一對基德不利的事情是什麼呢:基德給孩子做了一盤子薯條,然後基德想吃一點,結果他媳婦開始大喊大叫打基德,所以基德給了她一巴掌。

It's a "he said she said" situation between two people who sound like they hated each other and only stuck around for their child. 90% of what we hear from either is likely bullshit, but at the very least there's enough information out there to know she wasn't some meek, abused spouse.

這就是倆人各執一詞的事。而二人聽起來又非常討厭彼此,只是因為孩子才勉強繼續。我們從雙方口中聽到的90%的內容都是胡扯,但是最起碼我們從有限的信息中能總結出來的是,基德的配偶並不是什麼受男方*河蟹*的溫順小貓。


[–][CLE] Kevin Lovequentin-coldwater 143 指標 11小時前

Give me Nash if you have solid defense at the other 3 positions.

如果另外三個位置的防守很可靠的話,我選納什。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 110 指標 10小時前

Given that Dirk always played with Jason Terry as the 2 I think Kidd is the better option

考慮到諾維茨基以前一直和打2號位的傑森-特里搭檔,我覺得基德是更好的選擇。

[–]CelticsMexter-Dorgan 69 指標 10小時前

also cuz he won a ring with past his prime Kidd. just imagine what they would have done in his prime.

這麼選還因為諾維茨基跟巔峰已過的基德一起拿過總冠軍啊。想象一下基德處在巔峰的話,他們二人能搞多大的事情啊。

[–]ThunderIamallamala 85 指標 10小時前

To be fair tho, Kidd is an interesting case because he became a great shooter later in his career, so he fit better into the system.

不過公平地說,基德是個很有趣的例子,因為他是在職業生涯末期才變成了一個出色的射手的,所以適應體系的能力要更好些。

[–]Eastgoldspikes470 71 指標 10小時前

Prime Kidd took a Nets team that had no business being that good to the finals twice, put a prime Dirk on that team....They have a shot against the Lakers and could probably beat that Spurs team.

巔峰基德曾把籃網這樣根本不配進總決賽的球隊帶進過總決賽兩次,把巔峰德克放進那支球隊的話……他們跟湖人有的打,還可能打敗2003年那支馬刺。


[–]LosLakersFoo 165 指標 11小時前

kidd. kidd in any scenerio

我覺得基德更搭巔峰諾維茨基。任何情況下都是他。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryantdakak36 152 指標 11小時前

I'd agree in a vacuum but if you've got a strong defensive team around those two, I think Nash-Dirk combo on offense might suit a team better. The two of them throwing it back and forth and hitting threes would be more fun to watch, at least.

其他情況完全不考慮的話,我同意,但是,如果你能圍繞諾維茨基和納什打造一支防守出眾的球隊,我覺得他們二人在進攻端的組合拳比起基德司機的搭檔可能會更適合。起碼,他們倆來回投射三分命中籃筐的場景視覺效果上會更有趣些。

[–]naysmu 55 指標 10小時前

A Kidd (PG) with Nash (SG) backcourt, in today's NBA, would be SO LETHAL (with Nash taking most of the shots).

基德(控衛)搭配納什(分衛)的後場組合放到如今的NBA絕對致命啊!(納什來承擔大部分的火力輸出)

[–]Lakerskultureisrandy 67 指標 10小時前

Nash wouldn't defend the 2 well unless they're slower or smaller

湖人球迷:納什防守2號位的效果不會很好吧,除非對手速度更慢,身材更小。

[–]NuggetsTheEagleHasNotLanded 136 指標 10小時前

put Kidd on the tougher defensive assignment.

讓基德去承擔更困難的防守任務不就得了。


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