Dirk on Doncic: "His court vision and passing for his size at his age is something I’ve never seen in my 20 years."
諾維茨基評價東契奇：“他在這個年齡並擁有如此大塊頭的情況下所展現出的球場視野和傳球功力，我在我的二十年生涯中都沒見到過第二個。”
[–]NBAurfaselol 806 指標 5 天前
I can't believe this guy dropped to the Mavs
真不敢相信東契奇竟然掉到了獨行俠手裡。
[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 427 指標 5 天前
You mean Hawks
你想說的是老鷹吧。
[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 226 指標 5 天前
Sheed, Melo, and Doncic are Hawks legends.
拉希德-華萊士、甜瓜和東契奇都是老鷹名宿。[譯註1]
[譯註1]拉希德-華萊士只在老鷹打了一場比賽就被交易到了活塞。
[–]PacersBriggity_Brak 82 指標 5 天前
Don't forget Gasol
別忘了大加索爾。[譯註2]
[譯註2]2001年選秀大會，大加索爾被老鷹在第3順位選中，這個籤位被交易到了灰熊。
[–]Bladex10 378 指標 5 天前
sad hawk noises
彷彿聽到了失落的鷹啼。
[–]Hawksheathbadger 228 指標 5 天前
I am so torn between wanting to see Doncic become a superstar and hoping the Hawks made the right decision by passing on him. It's an awful headspace to be in. When I read stuff like this instead of being really pumped I get genuinely angry at my franchise.
老鷹球迷：我既想看到東契奇成為超級巨星，又暗自希望我鷹放棄他是正確的，真是兩難的境地，讓我糾結無比。每次看到這種帖子時，我都不會感到激動，而是對我的主隊表示由衷的氣憤。
[–][GSW] Calbert Cheaneyswollencornholio 163 指標 5 天前
Best case scenario for bball fans is that Trae and Doncic are both really good... like Harden and Curry (both from 2009 draft class).
對於各位球迷來說最好的情況就是特雷-楊和東契奇都能打出來……就像2009一代的哈登和庫裡一樣。
[–][TOR] Tracy McGradyWelfare_Mom 98 指標 5 天前
I like Young a lot but I don't think I would've passed up Doncic
我很喜歡吹楊，但是要我選的話，我不會錯過選東契奇的機會的。
[–]3ITKH 188 指標 5 天前
I would agree but also I've seen Lebron James.
我本來想同意司機的話，但是這不還有個叫勒布朗-詹姆斯的嘛。
[–]ParkBaller13 69 指標 5 天前
I mean i also cant imagine him having a better combo of those qualities than simmons
我也不太覺得東契奇這些特質的組合（年齡+塊頭+視野+傳球）能比本-西蒙斯強。
[–]Htaroh[S] 75 指標 5 天前
Simmons was older than 19 when he played his first game tho. But still.
不過西蒙斯完成聯盟首秀的時候已經超過19歲了。但樓上說的也是。
[–]Mavericksgigantism 145 指標 5 天前
I think in the context of the conversation it was more clear that he was referring to that ability as a 19 year old, not of any player in the last 20 years.
獨行俠球迷：我覺得按照諾天王當時對話的語境，很明顯他指的是一個19歲球員展現出的能力，而不是20年來所有年齡段的任何球員展現出的能力。
[–]NBADonDoncic 139 指標 5 天前
Doncic's pick-and-roll passing and half court game are head and shoulders above Simmons'
I know that sounds like a total exaggeration and I'll probably get down voted, but in about 3 months this will be a generally accepted fact here after people see Doncic play.
東契奇的擋拆順下傳球能力和陣地戰能力會比西蒙斯高出一截的。
我知道這聽起來很誇張，估計也會有人會滅我，但我相信，不出三個月，也就是當人們看過東契奇打球后，我上述的話會成為一個公認的事實。
[–]WheresMySaucePlease 79 指標 5 天前
Worth noting here that Philly barely ran PNR
值得一提的是，76人幾乎不打擋拆順下戰術。（所以怎麼比較？）
[–]NBADonDoncic 111 指標 5 天前
Very true. That's why I'm comfortable making that statement. Simmons is a great passer in transition, probably better than Doncic, but his half court game still has to develop. And Doncic's best skill by far is his pick-and-roll passing. I don't think that's even a controversial statement for anyone who watched both players last season.
你說的沒錯啊。所以我更加覺得自己的言論沒問題了。西蒙斯是一個出色的轉換進攻傳球手，這方面很可能強於東契奇，但他的半場陣地戰能力還不夠成熟。東契奇目前為止最成熟的技術就是擋拆順下時的傳球。我覺得，但凡看過上賽季這兩人的比賽的人都不會覺得我的言論有爭議。
[–]BucksLanky_Kaleidoscope 105 指標 5 天前
I think shooting is a big part of this. If the big man doesn’t think you are gonna shoot, they can sag back and take away chance to make pocket pass. And then the weak side doesn’t need to help as much.
我覺得這跟西蒙斯的投射能力有很大關係。如果對方內線的大個覺得你不會投籃，那麼他們就能縮在內線，不給你直塞傳球的機會。因此弱側也不需要太多的協防。
But if you can shoot, you can force traps and force big men to hedge high and recover. Doncic got a lot of assist from hitting a rolling big man before the opposing big could recover.
但如果你有籃子，你可以吸引包夾，逼大個子提到高位並歸防。東契奇很多助攻都是趁對方的內線大個沒來得及回防時給順下的己方大個送出的。
Simmon is awesome at long bounce passes in transition and he is great at drive and kick. He is better at attacking the rim, so his drive and kick game is dangerous, Doncic will have a harder time blowing by opponents.
But Doncic is better at lob passes and pocket passes out of the PnR.
西蒙斯特別擅長轉換進攻時的長距離擊地傳球，他也是突破分球的好手。他的攻筐能力比東契奇強，所以他的突分極具威脅。在過掉對手這一方面，東契奇將會遇到些麻煩。
但東契奇更擅長擋拆後的高吊球和直塞。
[–]Bartoraptor 134 指標 5 天前
Just a Real Madrid fan passing by, I don't watch as many NBA games as I'd like because of schedule + uni/work so I don't have much knowledge about the current NBA players but quote me on this:
Luka is going to be one of the greatest players of all time
You can downvote as much as you want, I just want this comment to exist so in 15-20 years when he retires I can say I told you.
皇馬球迷路過。我因為作息時間和大學/工作的關係沒能看太多NBA比賽，也對當今的NBA球員沒有太多瞭解。不過我立帖為證：東契奇會成為史上最好的球員之一。
要滅的隨便，只要這條評論沒被刪就行。這樣15-20年之後當他退役時我還能說“老子告訴過你們吧”。
[MacMahon] The word out of Dallas is that Doncic has often been the best player on the court in pickup games at the Mavs' facility despite not being in great shape by NBA standards... These games have included local products like LaMarcus Aldridge.
MacMahon：據獨行俠方面透露，儘管東契奇目前的身體狀態還沒達到NBA標準，但他在獨行俠的訓練球館打野球時經常是場上最佳球員……參與者包括了像阿爾德里奇這樣的達拉斯本地人。
[–]76ersBustelle_Fultz 313 指標 7小時前
Lonzo Ball's heir
球哥後繼有人了。
[–][LAL] Brandon IngramLaVarZoNoBall 164 指標 7小時前
Never lost a pick up game. Doncic has some big shoes to fill
球家是從來沒輸過野球的。東契奇還得加把勁兒迎頭趕上啊。[譯註3]
[譯註3]暗諷球爹的“NEVA LOST”（單挑從沒輸過）。
[–]Mavericksrvadarocket 560 指標 7小時前
GAHHHHHHH, I NEED TO SEE HIM PLAY SO BAD, the hype is killing me
獨行俠球迷：啊啊啊啊啊啊我現在就要看東契奇打球！你們吹得我心癢癢啊。
[–][NYK] Frank Ntilikinaaoifhasoifha 172 指標 4小時前
Luka is about to be so good he's gonna fuck up evaluation of Euro prospects for a decade the same way Dirk did (shoutout to Darko and Jan Veseley). I fucking love it.
尼克斯球迷：東契奇將會肆意綻放，強到能顛覆人們對歐洲新秀的評價整整十年，就像曾經的諾天王一樣（同時給米利西奇和揚-韋塞利打個call）。我真特麼等不及了。。
[–]Raptorscarba14 76 指標 2小時前
Fucking bargnani
猛龍球迷：TMD一想到巴尼亞尼我就來氣。
[–]Pistonsqedsquah 92 指標 7小時前
I’m hyped for Dallas fans. Y’all finally have potential star player other than Dirk, is Finley 2nd all-time player for y’all?
活塞球迷：我為獨行俠球迷感到激動。你們終於迎來了諾維茨基之外又一個巨星胚子，在這之前你俠隊史第二大概就是芬利了...吧？
[–]Mavericksrvadarocket 89 指標 7小時前
Nash technically
獨行俠球迷：嚴格意義來講是納什。
[–][MIN] Zach LaVineZach_LaVine 491 指標 7小時前
I'm all in on Doncic but while this is a good sign, the reoccuring remarks about him not being in great shape should be a big caution sign for people to pump their brakes for this season
我是梭哈東契奇的，但雖然這個新聞算是好的徵兆，但重複不斷的關於他身體狀態不達標的評價確實是個警示，那些激動不已準備迎接新賽季的球迷是應該靜下心來重新審視一番。
I'm not saying that he'll always be slow and unathletic, but the most common complaint from college players in the length of the season and a lot of those guys are in better shape than Doncic.
我不是說他會一直這麼又慢又缺乏運動能力，但身體跟不上的確是大學球員們在賽季中最經常抱怨的事情，而這些人裡面很多人的身體也比東契奇好。
I wouldn't be surprised to see him explode out of the gate and really look like a star, only to get worse as the season progresses and the fatigue builds up
我覺得他有可能在賽季伊始就打出爆炸表現並展現巨星相，但隨著賽季進行會因為疲勞的累積而表現更差。
[–][LAL] Jeffery Lamar Williamssptagnew 274 指標 7小時前
Porzingis hit a pretty serious wall himself, just as an example of another player coming straight from Europe.
湖人球迷：新秀賽季的波爾津吉斯結結實實地撞上了新秀牆。他也是從歐洲直接進入聯盟的球員，所以我就舉個例子。
[–][MIN] Zach LaVineZach_LaVine 102 指標 6小時前
Yeah and the bad news for doncic is that he def has a higher weight:height ratio than porzingis, which is gonna make it harder to keep going up and down the court
He might surprise though. He worked out with kobe and i'd be shocked if he didn't tear into doncic for not being in better shape
對頭，東契奇還有一個劣勢，就是他的體重/身高比肯定是比波爾津吉斯大的，這會讓他更難以一直折返跑。
不過他也有可能給咱們驚喜。他和科比一起訓練過，我覺得以科比的性格肯定會因為東契奇身體不達標而對他進行魔鬼訓練的。
[–]bandrejx 205 指標 6小時前
Dunno, he played 160+ games in two years straight... no offseason.
老哥你說什麼，東契奇可是連著兩年打了160多場比賽，連休賽期都沒有。
[–]NetsLanaRhoades- 113 指標 6小時前
Doncic is not in NBA shape because he has been playing non stop basketball for 2 years now
They didnt play him summer league and he will probably not play a lot pre season
Since 2016 he's played Spanish League + playoffs, Euroleague + playoffs, Eurobasket with Slovenia, over 150 games played
College players play like 50 games, Doncic needed the rest
東契奇的身體狀態沒達到NBA水準是因為他這兩年一直在不停地打球。
獨行俠沒有讓他打夏聯，季前賽估計也不會多上。
自從2016年開始，他總共打了150多場球，包括西甲聯賽+季後賽、歐冠聯賽+季後賽以及代表斯洛文尼亞出戰歐錦賽。
相比之下，大學球員只打了50多場球。東契奇需要休息啊。
[–]Celticsfdahood 187 指標 6小時前*
I am very excited to see him play, but have trouble believing that he is a higher caliber player than LaMarcus "Was a playoff team's entire offense" Aldridge.
凱爾特人球迷：我已經按捺不住想看他打球的激動了，但我還是不相信他要比阿德更強。那個男人可是季後賽級別的球隊裡面的進攻端大腿啊。
[–]Spursgsgspursgsg 95 指標 5小時前
Hey, we had post Achilles Rudy Gay and 57 year old Manu Ginobili too...
Fuck our offense was bad last year.
馬刺球迷：這個嘛，我們上賽季的進攻端也沒人了啊：踝傷後的蓋伊，57歲老將馬努。
MD我刺上賽季的進攻真的爛得不能看。
[–][UTA] Donovan MitchellSpida2YBanana 121 指標 7小時前
I still can't believe the Mavs got him.
爵士球迷：我還是不敢相信獨行俠竟然得到了東契奇。
[–]Trail Blazersirelli 144 指標 7小時前
I still can't believe the hawks gave him up:(
開拓者球迷：我還是不敢相信老鷹放棄了東契奇:(
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