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凯里-欧文感谢凯尔特人“把我从克利夫兰带走”。交易发生后，凯尔特人方面告知欧文，球队想要展现给他看在波士顿打球是多么特殊的体验，而他们也确实做到了。
[Souza]: Kyrie Irving indicated appreciation to C's for "getting me out of Cleveland." Said was told after trade C's wanted to show him how special it was to play in Boston, and they did just that.
This is the source tweet:
这是消息源的推特链接：
https://twitter.com/Scott_Souza/status/1048232120450256896
Kyrie also confirmed today that he has every intention to sign with the Celtics on July 1 (https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/1048230261404708864). But I do find it interesting (and honestly a little immature) that he's still dissing Cleveland and talking a little bit of shit about them. What do you guys think about his "getting me out of Cleveland" comment?
欧文今天也确认自己有很强烈的意向和凯尔特人在明年七月一日续约（链接：https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/1048230261404708864）。但是我发现欧文说的这段话很有意思（说实话也有一点不成熟），欧文仍然在埋汰克利夫兰，有点说坏话的意思。你们是怎么看待欧文“把我从克利夫兰带走”的言论的？
Edit: here’s the full quote:
Celtics Kyrie Irving: For me, it was like: ‘I’m happy here.' Every single day is like an all-time competitive high. What more can you ask for as an organization taking a chance (on me) as well as getting me out of Cleveland?
http://twitter.com/Scott_Souza/status/1048240127892447237
凯尔特人球队的凯里-欧文：对于我来说，这就好像‘我在这里（波士顿）很开心’。每一天都像是最有竞争力的一天。对于一个敢在我身上赌一把，并且将我从克利夫兰带走的球队，你还能要求更多吗？
[–]RaptorsClashQuester 229 指標 11小時前
That's pretty savage
猛龙球迷：有点狠哦。
[–]CelticsLuckysBestMan 82 指標 11小時前
Jokim Noah nods his approval
凯尔特人球迷：乔金-诺阿点头表示肯定。[译注1]
[译注1]诺阿对克利夫兰的厌恶由来已久。诺阿先是在2010年第一轮骑士VS公牛第一场赛后表示“克利夫兰烂的一B。我不了解这地方，但是我每次从窗外往外看的时候，我就感觉一切太特么压抑了。我一点也不想出门。”而在2010年第一轮骑士VS公牛的第二场赛后，诺阿又表示自己不后悔相关言论：“后悔什么？后悔说克利夫兰烂？你觉得克利夫兰还挺好呢？我从来就没听说过有人说自己要去克利夫兰度假啦。克利夫兰哪好啊?"。而在2016年10月，加盟尼克斯的诺阿又开喷了起来：“虽然克利夫兰不是度假的去处，但你们拿冠军了。”
[–]CavaliersShamWowGod 49 指標 11小時前
That's a dick thing to say. We loved Kyrie when he was here and a lot of us still are fans. Most days I would say he is one of my favorite players. He won here and was a part of something special, but for some reason he has to shit on us too.
骑士球迷：这么说有点缺德啊。欧文在骑士队的时候，我们都非常爱他，即使是现在，我们中的大部分人依然是他的球迷。大多数时间我甚至都会觉得欧文是我最喜欢的球员之一。他在克利夫兰赢下一座冠军，是那支优秀球队的一部分，但是不知道为什么，欧文非得要说我们的坏话。
[–][CLE] LeBron JamesSomali_Kamikaze 128 指標 11小時前
He makes it sound like he was in a concentration camp.
骑士球迷：欧文说得好像自己当时被关在集中营一样。
[–][CLE] Zydrunas IlgauskasAPF429 258 指標 10小時前*
Every since we won all Kyrie has done is try to distance himself from the Cavs.
I wonder what happened
edit: I still have love for Kyrie, I'm just not sure why he needs to say all this stuff instead of simply "grateful for my time there and our championship we won." It feels like he intentionally tries to diminish what we did as a team.
骑士球迷：自从我们夺冠以后，欧文所做的一切都是在试图跟骑士保持距离。
我很好奇到底发生了什么。
编辑：我依然爱欧文，我只是不确定为什么他要说这些乱七八糟的话，而不是简简单单的一句“感谢我在骑士的时光，感谢我们一起赢下的那座总冠军。”似乎欧文在有意地试着贬低我骑作为一个球队所取得的成就。
[–]RaptorsThaNorth 95 指標 8小時前
I think it's playing along side LeBron. IF everything is good and the team is winning it's because of LeBron, and if the team is losing it's because LeBron doesn't have enough help.
我认为主要就是他不喜欢跟詹姆斯一起打球吧。如果球队顺风顺水，球队不停赢球，那么这一切就是勒布朗的功劳，如果球队开始输球了，人们就开始说勒布朗的帮手不够。
He also probably didn't like shit like reporters asking him, "how has LeBron being a father figure helped you?" It's like they sometimes treated Kyrie as a child who didn't understand anything(insert flat earth joke here) and needed LeBron for guidance.
欧文估计也不喜欢记者整天问他“扮演父亲形象的勒布朗是如何帮助你的呢？”之类的愚蠢问题。就好像有时候人们把欧文当作一个啥也不懂（估计你们又要开地平说的玩笑啦）的孩子来看待，并且认为欧文需要勒布朗的指导。
[–]Pistonsthrowaway_5256 58 指標 6小時前
I feel like Kyrie was really bothered by the father thing. It kinda became a joke and then everyone moved on. But Kyrie apparently has a close relationship with his dad. I could see him being offended by the implication that his father figure wasnt adequate and he needed Lebron to make up for it.
我觉得欧文是真的被勒布朗父亲角色的那个问题搞烦了。在当时，那好像成了一个玩笑，大家都一笑而过翻篇了。但是就我了解，欧文和父亲的关系很亲密。我觉得，欧文确实有充分的理由被“父亲陪伴不足，需要勒布朗来弥补”的暗示所冒犯。
[–][NJN] Vince CarterGetBuckets13182 106 指標 9小時前
This is pure speculation on my part but i think he felt under appreciated and not given enough credit for that championship run. All everyone talks about is how lebron did it(and rightfully so, he was incredible).
我就纯粹一猜啊，但我觉得欧文认为自己没有得到足够的赞赏，然后他可能认为自己在那年冠军历程中的贡献没有足够被认识。大家讨论的都是“勒布朗是如何做到的”（也理所应当，毕竟勒布朗那年的表现的确不可思议）。
What’s the iconic play of Game 7? Lebrons block. Not kyries game winner. It’s gets notoriety but people always go back to the block.
提到那年抢七最经典的回合，大家都会说是勒布朗对伊戈达拉的致命一帽，而不是欧文的制胜三分。是，欧文那个球的确会被提起，但是人们最终还是会说回到詹姆斯的盖帽。
[–]CavaliersThe_Milk_man 59 指標 7小時前
I mean you had the block, the shot, and KLove's fantastic defense all within a 2 min gametime stretch, when I think of game 7 I think of all 3, because all 3 of them showed up big and I know many Cavs fans think the same.
骑士球迷：这个吧，在抢七最后两分钟的时间里，我们有勒布朗神奇的盖帽，欧文的致命三分，还有乐福的优秀防守，当我想到那年总决赛抢七战，我会想到这三样东西，因为三巨头都在关键时刻站了出来。我知道很多骑士球迷和我想的是一样的。
[–]LakersDarkSoulsDarius 57 指標 8小時前
"rightfully so" not rightfully so. Kyrie was amazing that series and playoffs in general, his grip is legitimate as a result.
湖人球迷：“也理所应当”？不，不是理所应当的。欧文在那轮系列赛甚至整个季后赛的表现都非常不可思议，所以他的耿耿于怀也是合情合理的。
[–]CavaliersU2_is_gay 77 指標 8小時前
Barely legitimate. Cleveland loved Kyrie Irving. He was put in a tough place, having to "compete" for adoration against Lebron James in Cleveland. Nobody is gonna win that battle. Across all sports. Hell even outside of sports. Much less a teammate.
If all you're saying is that Kyrie wanted to be number 1, that's fair. And it wasn't gonna happen in Cleveland. But don't think he was underappreciated.
骑士球迷：勉强合理。整个克利夫兰当初都爱欧文。他被置于一个尴尬的境地，必须和勒布朗“争夺”球迷的喜爱。而这是个根本打不赢的战争啊。无论什么体育运动，甚至体育界之外，都没有人可以压过勒布朗，更别提是队友了。
如果你们说的是欧文想做大当家，那还说得通。只是，这在克利夫兰是不可能发生的。但是你们千万不要认为欧文没有得到足够的赞美。
Funny part is that if Tatum continues his upward trajectory then Ky might run into that problem again. Not saying Tatum is the better talent or will be any time soon. But he's the homegrown talent.
有趣的是，如果塔特姆继续保持上升轨迹，那欧文可能又要遇到同样的问题了。我不是说塔特姆现在更强，或者未来很短时间内就能超越欧文。但是他可是凯尔特人亲手培养出来的天赋人才啊。
[–]Cavaliersddottay 199 指標 11小時前
I blame Gilbert for fucking up the unfuckupable. If he keeps Griffin I truly think he could have convinced Kyrie to at least play through his contract in Cleveland.
骑士球迷：我怪吉尔伯特，他把一手打不烂的牌打臭了。如果他当时留下了格里芬，我真心认为格里芬起码可以说服欧文在克利夫兰效力到合同结束。
[–]76ersSlappyBagg 159 指標 10小時前
Kyrie is obviously to blame as well. That whole thing about him going weeks without talking to teammates didn't come off well at all.
76人球迷：很明显欧文也要背锅啊。有报道说他连续几个星期不和队友说一句话，这可不太好啊。
[–]CavaliersKayFeldersAlt 93 指標 9小時前
We also built a team to beat the Warriors and spent a ton of money on it, then the Warriors added one of the GOAT scorers in his prime to an almost perfect team and we had nothing we could do. It was honestly just the perfect storm. Cleveland flew too close to the Sun, so we were punished with the World Series and losing our historical team in a matter of one calendar year.
骑士球迷：而且我们斥巨资建队就是为了击败勇士队。然后，本来就接近完美的勇士队找来了处于巅峰期的历史最出色的得分手之一。我们是真的没有办法了。说实话这就是完美风暴吧。骑士队飞得太高玩得太过火，所以我们也相应地收到了惩罚，在一年内，克利夫兰印第安人队在棒球世界大赛中被逆转，我们也失去了一支历史级的NBA球队。
[–]Cavaliersrichp1180 247 指標 11小時前
Oh man...that just hurts as a Cavs fan. We ADORED Kyrie. He was our dude. We defended him when people knocked him and fact we didn't win pre LeBron with him.
骑士球迷：哎……欧文这番话可太伤我们骑士球迷的心了。我们当时简直爱死欧文了好吧，简直把他当个宝捧着。当人们抨击欧文，说他在勒布朗回归骑士之前没有带领球队赢球时，我们还站出来维护他呢。
Then we trade him and he just wants to shit on us? Bro, you won a title here, the fans loved you, that alone should leave you to say nothing but positive stuff so the fans who supported you don't feel like you're telling them he hated them and the team and the city
结果我们把欧文交易走后他就只想说我们坏话？老哥，你可是在这里赢了一个冠军啊。球迷们都爱你，就仅仅因为这一点，你也应该说一些正面积极的话，那样支持你的球迷就不会感觉你在告诉他们你讨厌他们，讨厌骑士队，讨厌这个城市。
[–]Cavalierscryolems 110 指標 11小時前*
Sucks hard core. Kyrie was most clevelanders favorite player even over LeBron 2015-2017. It’s honestly the worst feeling to see that he could give a shit less.
骑士球迷：这感觉糟透了。在2015年至2017年间，欧文可以说是大多数克利夫兰人最爱的球员了，甚至胜过勒布朗。说
说实话，看到欧文对此不屑一顾，真的感觉像吃了屎一样。
[–]CelticsMJRocky 98 指標 10小時前*
I honestly believe he means it as in "the situation I was in" rather than the city/fanbase itself. I'm sure he's grateful to the fans and the time he spent there
凯尔特人球迷：我个人真的认为欧文想说的是“（感谢凯尔特人把我从）我当时所处的混乱局面（中带走）”，而不是指这座城市以及球迷们。
我敢肯定欧文对于克利夫兰的球迷和在骑士的几年时光是充满感激之情的。
[–]Cavaliershungry-jewish-man 46 指標 10小時前
this is what i'm hoping, kyrie is not the most clear when he says things. really sucks if he means it that way tho :/
骑士球迷：我也希望如此，欧文总是不能很清楚地表达出自己想说的东西。如果他真的是在说克城的坏话，那就太不应该了。
[–]KnicksE-Miles 112 指標 11小時前
You're giving them credit for doing their job and giving Kyrie what any sensible team would have, because he earned it.
尼克斯球迷：骑士只是在做自己的本职工作而已，换成任何一支明事理的球队也都会给欧文这些东西的，因为这是欧文挣来的。然而楼上却在夸骑士，好像骑士做了什么特别的事一样。
[–]Statshelp_TA 197 指標 11小時前
so then why is Kyrie still taking shots at them? That's what is annoying about this. The FO did all those sensible things and yet Kyrie is still acting like he was wronged by them.
那既然是这样，欧文为何还要把枪口对准骑士队呢？这就是比较恼人的地方了。骑士管理层做了一切合乎情理的事，然而欧文依然表现出一副自己被骑士害惨了的样子。
[–]LakersSomeGuyInSanJoseCa 77 指標 11小時前
Well, yeah. They did their job and were sensible, and Kyrie is still badmouthing them.
湖人球迷（回复那位尼克斯球迷）：说的就是这个理啊，骑士做了自己的本职工作，也明事理，结果欧文依然在说骑士队坏话。
[–]KnicksE-Miles 67 指標 11小時前
You're looking at it from a fan perspective. The locker room environment was clearly toxic. He clearly disliked how he was being treated by staff. Those are things that you're not privy to.
尼克斯球迷 ：你们都是在以球迷的角度来看这件事。当时的更衣室环境很明显是不健康的。欧文肯定不喜欢自己被球队工作人员对待的方式。这些都是你们了解不到的事情。
[–]Chris_Stormz 48 指標 11小時前
Sure, they only helped put you in a situation to win your first ring and legitimize your name. What have they done for you?
Kyrie is really shutting the door he might need open some day. You never know.
嚯嚯，骑士只是将你欧文处在了一个夺冠并帮助你证明自己的情形中。骑士是真没为你欧文做什么呗。
欧文真的是在关上一个未来可能需要走进的门。以后的事谁知道呢？
[–]WarriorsJamJ33 1 指標 52 分鐘前
You are giving the Cavs too much credit. They did nothing to help him win a ring, they are just lucky LeBron was born nearby. The Cavs were awful before LeBron returned. Like "first pick in the draft multiple years in a row" level of bad.
勇士球迷：你们给骑士队太多夸奖了。骑管没有做任何事帮助欧文夺冠。他们只是幸运在勒布朗恰好出生在克利夫兰附近罢了。勒布朗回归之前，骑士可烂透了，烂到“连续多年获得状元签”的级别了都。
[–]Celticsward0630 56 指標 11小時前
I think Kyrie, like a lot of people on the outside, realized that there was a significant (maybe even greater than 50%) chance that LeBron would leave Cleveland. What would happen to Kyrie then? Either he'd be traded anyway (and options like San Antonio and Boston might disappear) or he'd be stuck on this mediocre Cavs team for a full year of his prime and if he left in FA he could only get a 4 year contract instead of the 5 year max he'll now be able to get from the Celtics.
凯尔特人球迷：我觉得欧文当时就像外界很多人一样，意识到了勒布朗有很大概率（甚至可能高于50%）会离开克利夫兰。那到时候欧文会怎么样呢？要么被交易走（像马刺和凯尔特人这样的下家可能就不再可能了），要么他巅峰期的一整年都要被困在这支平庸的骑士队。如果欧文以自由球员的身份离开骑士队，他只能得到一份四年的合同，而不是他现在可以和凯尔特人签的五年顶薪合同。
Kyrie made the right decision. He got lucky that he got traded to Boston rather than Phoenix or Sacramento, but he made the right call for his career.
欧文做了正确的决定。他运气好被交易到了凯尔特人，而不是太阳队或者国王队。但对职业生涯来说，欧文做了正确的决定。
[–]Cavaliersrichp1180 47 指標 11小時前
I agree with you. That was prob his thoughts. But does he have to slight Cleveland to express how happy he is in Boston? That's my only beef. We got our chip, and wish we kept him but it does kinda suck he's making it sound like he hated his time here
骑士球迷：我同意楼上。这大概就是欧文的想法。但是他真的非得靠贬低克利夫兰来表现自己在波士顿有多快乐？这是我唯一不爽的地方，我们得到了冠军并且真的希望当时可以留下欧文，但是欧文表现出很厌恶自己在克利夫兰的时光，这感觉就太糟糕了。
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