总决赛的欧文太恐怖,场均28分还是180俱乐部一员;他被低估了?

In 13 career finals games, Kyrie Irving is averaging 28ppg on near 50/40/90 shooting splits.

欧文职业生涯截至目前总共打了十三场总决赛,而他在这十三场比赛中场均砍下28分,三项命中率接近50%+40%+90%。

总决赛的欧文太恐怖,场均28分还是180俱乐部一员;他被低估了?

I understand he's a bad defender and not an elite distributor, and while he's not great he's not a bad passer either, and his defense has gotten to the point where the team he was leading in minutes played had the best defensive rating in the league despite him, so he's obviously at least passable.

我知道,他防守不好,也不是个顶级的组织者。可是,虽然他的传球不够优秀,但也绝对不算差。而至于他的防守嘛,上赛季,凯尔特人曾在欧文出场时间领衔全队的情况下取得联盟第一的防守效率,所以欧文的防守水平显然也还过得去。

Basically what I'm getting at is that he is pretty underrated considering how much shit he gets from a pretty big chunk of people.

基本上我想说的就是,考虑到太多人对他的大肆批评,我觉得欧文被严重低估了。


[–][NYK] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 198 指標 8小時前

Kyrie is both very overrated and very underrated. Depends who you ask

尼克斯球迷:欧文既被过于高估也被过于低估,这要看你问谁了。

[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 50 指標 4小時前

I call this "Kobe Bryant Syndrome".

我把这种情况叫做“科比-布莱恩特综合征”。

[–]dmt_nirvana 72 指標 10小時前

I think an underrated part of what makes him so good down the stretch is how much control he has with his dribble and how he can get to wherever he wants and has an arsenal of shots to score from anywhere.

我觉得吧,欧文的关键时刻之所以如此优秀,有一部分被大家所低估的原因是他控球的稳定性和随心所欲到达球场任意一点的能力,同时,他也具备在任意点出手的能力。

This ability is really valuable when it's crunch time and the defense is locked in and it's difficult to get separation, but his ability to do just that even against great defense makes him a lot more valuable in these difficult moments than some players who might be better overall during the season.

当比赛来到关键时刻,防守专注度达到顶峰而且很难跟防守人拉开距离时,欧文的这种能力会非常有价值了。但他在绝境中面对极其优秀的防守也能如法炮制关键进球的这种能力实在是太珍贵了,其他别的球员从整个赛季来看能比他要稳,但这么一看就不如他有价值了。

He really redlines his game and when watching him play you get the feeling he has an extra gear to go to when there is little space to operate.

他真的是把自己的技术雕琢到了极致。当你看他打球的时候,你会感觉只要球场上有一点点空间给他操作,他就能马上再挂一挡完成加速。

After KD and Lebron I think he is one player who is most likely to get a good shot off regardless of the level of defense.

除了杜兰特和勒布朗以外,我觉得欧文是最有可能在任何级别的防守强度下都能找到不错出手选择的球员。

[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 66 指標 8小時前

underrated part? thats like the part he gets the most praise for wtf

额,被低估的部分?这好像是他最被称赞的地方吧,你扯啥呐。


[–][UTA] Joe InglesNitroXYZ 471 指標 10小時前

Yeah for all his faults you cant deny that Kyrie is always there to step up in the big moments.

是啊,欧文是有不少缺点,但你不能否认的是欧文总能在关键时刻挺身而出。

[–][BOS] Jayson TatumIntergalacticWZRD[S] 174 指標 10小時前

Yeah, I know he's not everyone's cup of tea with his personality and some of the stuff he says. But I find it kinda ridiculous when people still say he's not good enough to be a top option on a contender. Offensively he's absolutely good enough to be the focal point of an offense.

凯尔特人球迷:没错。我知道,因为他的个性和一些言论,并不是所有人都喜欢他。但是每当有人说他还不够格成为争冠球队的大当家,我就觉得有点扯淡。

在进攻端他绝对有能耐挑起进攻大梁。

[–]NeoBey 40 指標 7小時前

People say that because he is always going to depend on a secondary play maker. He can't run an offense on his own, and his time in Cleveland, both with and without LeBron, has proved it.

很多人这么说是因为欧文总是要依赖于第二组织者。他就是无法独自掌管梳理球队的进攻。而他在克利夫兰(不管有没有詹姆斯)的表现也证明了这一点。

Even when the Cavs were stacked, the team would routinely fall apart when LeBron took a breather and Kyrie was tasked with running things,

If he's the #1, it better be a really damn good team 2-8 if he's going to contend.

即使骑士阵容天赋爆棚的时候,当詹姆斯下场喘口气换欧文带队,球队也总是陷入僵局。

如果欧文是球队老大,那这支球队的第二到第八人必须得非常出色才能保证欧文可以争冠。

[–]Celticsnot_Brendan 35 指標 6小時前

Celtics are in a really good place to minimize that. We can easily have at least one of Gordon Hayward, Al Horford, or Marcus Smart out there for facilitating duties, and at least one of Terry Rozier, Jayson Tatum, or Gordon Hawyard for scoring playmaking duties.

凯尔特人球迷:凯尔特人就是一个很合适的球队嘛,可以最小化欧文组织能力不足的缺陷。我们轻轻松松地就可以派戈登-海沃德、艾尔-霍弗德或马库斯-斯马特三人中的至少一名球员来承担组织任务,或者派特里-罗齐尔、杰森-塔特姆和戈登-海沃德中三人中的至少一名球员来分担他得分和组织的压力。


[–]Knicks10_zing 214 指標 10小時前

His 41 in Game 5 2016 was absolutely amazing. LeBron matched it as well but if Kyrie didn't show up there, they wouldve lost the series that game.

尼克斯球迷:他在2016年总决赛第五场轰下41分的表现真是太精彩了,詹姆斯也站了出来,但是如果欧文没有挺身而出,他们在那场比赛就输掉系列赛回家了。

[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAnti_Thon 90 指標 9小時前

Kyrie singlehandedly closed them out that game

雷霆球迷:欧文凭一己之力在关键时刻收下了那场比赛。

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 45 指標 6小時前

LBJ was a monster that series. Lead everyone in every statistical catagory (totals)

But even then Kyrie was able to put up superior efficiency with 47/41/94 to LBJ's 49/37/72 as the 1b option to LBJ's 1a with nearly half the turnovers.

詹姆斯在那个系列赛的表现堪称禽兽,在每一项技术统计(总数)都领先两队所有人。

但是即便如此,欧文的效率也要更高。作为球队进攻第二选择的欧文命中率为47%+41%+94%,而球队第一选择的詹姆斯命中率为49%+37%+72,而且欧文的失误数是詹姆斯的一半。

总决赛的欧文太恐怖,场均28分还是180俱乐部一员;他被低估了?

2016年NBA总决赛骑士VS勇士技术统计

[–]Ididthemaths0 42 指標 6小時前

I don't know if superior is the word i would use for .002 better, .562 vs .564, TS%. Kyrie has the edge but the difference is neglible.

我大概是不会用“更高”这个词来形容0.2%微弱差距。他们的真实命中率分别是56.2%和56.4%,欧文略高一些,但是这差距可以忽略不计。


[–][UTA] Mehmet Okurkiticus 120 指標 10小時前

Wait a second....50+40+90=180.

180 degrees is half the circumference of a circle.

The diameter of a circle is a straight line between 2 points half way between the the circumference of a circle

The line marking the diameter of a circle is flat

HOLY SHIT, THE EARTH IS FUCKING FLAT!

等会儿……50+40+90=180,

180°是圆周角的一半,

圆的直径是圆周的中间两点连接的直线,

标记圆的直径的线是平直的,

卧槽!地球真尼玛是平的!!

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryantiamnotkobe 48 指標 9小時前

Love him or hate him, he already had one of the most iconic clutch finals shot in NBA history and shit tons of dribbling highlights, A lot of fans seems to unaware of Uncle Drew's legacy and we are all witnessing an active all time great player

快船球迷:不论你是蜜是黑,欧文都已经拥有NBA史上最经典的总决赛关键球之一,以及数不清的精彩的运球表演。很多球迷似乎都没意识到德鲁大叔的历史遗产,我们可是在见证着一位现役的历史级别球员的表演啊。

[–]LakersThe_NA_Deft 41 指標 9小時前

In the playoffs, Steph Curry is the only guard I'd definitely take over Kyrie. Dude has absolutely balled the fuck out in big games.

湖人球迷:在季后赛,我觉得唯一一个比欧文强的后卫就是库里。欧文在重要比赛的表现简直毁天灭地。

[–]Warriorsklankthompson 58 指標 10小時前

Dude was tryin to tell me Butler is better than Kyrie. Nah.

勇士球迷:之前有个老哥还跟我说巴特勒比欧文更出色,拉倒吧。


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