The WhatsApp Cofounder Who Sold ToFacebook For $19 Billion Tells Students To Delete Facebook
WhatsApp联合创始人以190亿美元的价格将其出售给Facebook，并告诉学生删除Facebook
“That’s the bad part. We buy theirproducts. We sign up for these websites. Delete Facebook, right?”
“那是不好的一部分。我们买他们的产品。我们在这些网站上注册。删除Facebook，好吗？“
Ryan Mac BuzzFeedNews Reporter
Ryan Mac BuzzFeed新闻记者
WhatsApp cofounder Brian Acton defended hisdecision to sell his company to Facebook for $19 billion and encouragedstudents to delete their accounts from the social network in a rare publicappearance at Stanford University on Wednesday.
WhatsApp联合创始人布莱恩·阿克森（BrianActon）坚持自己以190亿美元的价格将自己的公司出售给Facebook的决定，并于周三在斯坦福大学罕见的公开露面中鼓励学生们从社交网络中删除他们的账户。
Despite selling WhatsApp in a deal thatmade him a billionaire several times over, Acton’s negative feelings aboutFacebook are no secret. He departed in November 2017 after more than threeyears at the company following tensions surrounding the introduction of adsonto the messaging platform, something he and fellow cofounder Jan Koumvehemently opposed. (Koum announced he was leaving Facebook last April, amid reports he disagreed with the company’s plans formonetizing WhatsApp and its approach to user data and privacy.)
尽管出售WhatsApp让他成为亿万富翁，但Acton对Facebook的负面情绪并不是秘密。他在公司工作了三年多之后于2017年11月离职，此时公司打算将广告植入该消息传递平台，他与同事及共同创始人Jan Koum强烈反对植入广告。（Koum宣布他将于去年四月离开Facebook，因为有报道称他不同意该公司将WhatsApp商业化及计划利用其用户数据和隐私。）
In March 2018, following Facebook’s dataprivacy failings involving political consulting firm Cambridge Analytica, Actontweeted a call to “#deletefacebook.”
2018年3月，在Facebook涉及政治咨询公司CambridgeAnalytica的数据隐私败露之后，Acton发起了一场名为“#deletefacebook”的号召。
Wednesday’s appearance, in which he sharedthe stage with Ellora Israni, a former Facebook software engineer and cofounderof women’s diversity in tech initiative She++, was only the second time Actonhas spoken publicly about the deterioration of his relationship with the socialnetwork and its CEO Mark Zuckerberg. “I sold my users’ privacy to a largerbenefit,” Acton told Forbes in September, detailing the conflicts thateventually led to his departure. In the piece, Acton described how Facebook hadset goals for WhatsApp to hit a revenue run rate of $10 billion within fiveyears of monetizing by pushing ads and offering businesses ways to directlycommunicate with users.
星期三他与Ellora Israni一道出席，Ellora Israni是前脸书软件工程师，也是倡议女性参与技术创新She ++组织的联合创始人，这是Acton第二次公开谈论他与社交网络及其CEO马克·扎克伯格的关系恶化。 “我把用户的隐私卖给了更大的利益，”Acton在9月告诉福布斯，详细说明最终导致他离职的冲突。在这篇文章中，Acton描述了Facebook如何设定WhatsApp的目标，即通过推广广告和为企业提供与用户直接沟通的方式，在商业化WhatsApp的五年内实现100亿美元的收入。
A WhatsApp spokesperson declined to commenton Acton's statements and instead pointed BuzzFeed News to a blog post from the company when it did away with the$1 fee in 2016.
“WhatsApp发言人拒绝就Acton的声明发表评论，相反他告诉BuzzFeed News一篇该公司发布的博客文章，文章上提到它于2016年取消了1美元费用。
In explaining WhatsApp’s earlydecision-making, Acton said the company built the features that people wanted,including end-to-end encryption, which multiple users requested before thecompany eventually instituted it across the platform. He also recalled hisearly model for WhatsApp was Craigslist, a company with a small number ofemployees that provided a public service and built a successful business without raising venturecapital.
在解释WhatsApp的早期决策时，Acton表示该公司构建了人们想要的功能，包括端到端加密，这是多个用户在公司最终研究于所有平台实现端到端加密之前所要求的。他还回忆起他早期的WhatsApp模型基于Craigslist，这是一家拥有少量员工的公司，他们提供的是公共服务，并在不增加风险投资的情况下成功建立了这家企业。
Ultimately, WhatsApp diverged from thatideal and raised $60 million from Sequoia Capital before selling to Facebook.That change in ownership took away Acton and Koum’s decision-making power, withKoum joining the Facebook board. That left WhatsApp beholden to shareholdersand Zuckerberg, who still maintains voting control over the tech giant.
最终，WhatsApp偏离了这一理想，并在向Facebook出售之前从红杉资本筹集了6000万美元。所有权的变化剥夺了Acton和Koum的决策权，但Koum加入了Facebook董事会。这让WhatsApp对股东和扎克伯格感激不尽，扎克伯格仍然对这家科技巨头保有投票控制权。
“Accountability to shareholders absolutelydrives the decision-making and skews it,” he said. “At Facebook, they spent aninordinate amount of time figuring out how they can get into China.”
Last week, BuzzFeed News reported thatFacebook would no longer pursue a plan to push its social networkinto China, following the publication of a long note from Zuckerberg in whichhe emphasized a privacy-first vision for the company’s variousmessaging applications. Acton applauded Facebook’s decision to not placeservers in China, and referenced how other businesses make Faustian bargains tooperate in the country. Apple, for example, a company he considers to have astrong track record with user privacy, has servers in China in order to sellits devices to the some 1.4 billion people in the country.
“对股东的责任绝对会推动决策并使其产生偏差，”他说。“在Facebook公司，他们花费了大量时间来搞懂他们如何才能进入中国。”上周，BuzzFeed News报道称，在扎克伯格发表长篇报告后，Facebook将不再执行将其社交网络传播到中国的计划，其中他强调了该公司各种消息传递应用中隐私是第一位的。 Acton赞扬Facebook不在中国设置服务器的决定，并引用其他企业如何在该国运营的案例。例如，苹果公司，他认为该公司在用户隐私方面拥有良好的记录，该公司在中国设有服务器，以便向全国约14亿人销售其设备。
While that utilitarian calculation downplaysthe negative consequences of an unmoderated platform, including thefacilitation of the spread of disinformation and the incitement of violence, Acton has held fast to the idea ofnot interfering. “I think it’s impossible,” he said when asked about moderatingcontent. “To be brutally honest, the curated networks — the open networks —struggle to decide what’s hate speech and what’s not hate speech. ... Applestruggles to decide what’s a good app and what’s a bad app. Google struggleswith what’s a good website and what’s a bad website. These companies are notequipped to make these decisions.”
虽然这种功利主义的计算淡化了未经调节的平台的负面后果，包括促进虚假信息传播和煽动暴力，但Acton坚持不干涉的想法。“我认为这是不可能的，”当被问及调节内容时他说。“老实说，一个河蟹的网络 - 开放的网络 - 很难决定什么是仇恨言论，什么不令人讨厌的言论。 ...苹果很难决定什么是好应用，什么是坏应用。谷歌正在努力寻找如何区分一个好的网站和一个糟糕的网站的方法。这些公司没有能力做出这些决定。“
“And we give them the power,” he continued.“That’s the bad part. We buy their products. We sign up for these websites.Delete Facebook, right?”
“是我们给了他们这种力量，”他继续道。“那是不好的一部分。我们买他们的产品。我们在这些网站上注册。所以删除Facebook，好吗？“
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SaintPoost
85 points·2 hours ago
Haven't experienced this but what I haveexperienced has made me a much better person for it.
This is an experience I wish the world tofeel and see and think of for generations to come.
Shame the Classes of drugs in America arefucked up beyond all recognition.
没有经历过这个，但我所经历的使我成为一个更好的人。这是一种我希望世界在未来几代人中感受，看到和思考的经历。耻辱的美国毒品分类已被搞砸了。
F90
99 points·2 hours ago
I have found it's a roulette once you killyour ego. You either gain lots ofself consciousness and live a happy life orgain lots of self consciousness and end up in an existential crisis/depression.
我发现一旦你失去了你的自我，它就会变成轮盘赌。你要么获得大量的自我意识，过上幸福的生活，要么失去大量的自我意识，最终陷入存在危机/沮丧中。
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NotSoSlenderMan
23 points·1 hour ago
I’ve had very limited usage and all of themso far have had a positive impact. But like my usage it has been limited. Allof it has been during festivals and upon returning home and to my “normal”life, all of my issues return and it’s like nothing has changed.
That’s why I hope these studies inmicrodosing provide effective results and help turn the tide of the war ondrugs.
A consistent, regimented use I feel wouldhelp my mental state greatly. I just lack access and of course even with accessthe risk of legal trouble.
我的使用非常有限，到目前为止所有这些都产生了积极的影响。但就像我的用法一样，它受到了限制。所有这一切都是在节日期间，一旦回到家乡和我的“正常”生活中，我的所有问题都回来了，就像没有任何改变一样。这就是为什么我希望微剂量西毒能够提供有效的帮助，并有助于扭转毒品战争的潮流。我觉得一贯的，有条理的使用会极大地帮助我的精神状态。我只是缺乏权限，当然即使是违背法律的权限。
pirate3278
12 points·38 minutes ago
SMS are sent in plain text, so ifintercepted anyone can read the message. Whereas, WhatsApp uses E2E encryption,so only the holders of the private key can read the message.
The problems with WhatsApp is the metadata.A normal SMS sends relatively little metadata along with the message. WhileWhatsApp sends everything it can. And with the metadata Facebook can build up apretty accurate picture of you and in some circumstances even deduce what is inthe message.
The best IM is signal as it uses E2Eencryption and sends as little metadata as possible (which is deleted as soonas possible). You can also trust signal more as it is open source. Whereas, theonly part of WhatsApp that is open source is the encryption algorithm.
SMS以纯文本形式发送，因此如果被截获，任何人都可以阅读该消息。 然而，WhatsApp使用E2E加密，因此只有私钥的持有者才能阅读该消息。WhatsApp的问题是元数据。普通SMS与消息一起发送相对较少的元数据。虽然WhatsApp发送了所有可能的东西。通过元数据，Facebook可以为您构建一个非常准确的图片，在某些情况下甚至可以推断出消息中的内容。最好的IM是信号，因为它使用E2E加密并尽可能少地发送元数据（尽快删除）。您也可以更多信任信号，因为它是开源的。然而，WhatsApp开源的唯一部分是加密算法。
JonnySucio
3 points·10 minutes ago
I use signal for my main SMS app, but fromwhat I understand, it is most effective when both parties have signal. That'sgood for the most part, between my good friends who also use signal, but 99% ofpeople I encounter out there are using their normal built in SMS app. In theUSA, WhatsApp isn't so popular, but in Mexico EVERYONE uses it. It's simply theonly way for people like me to keep in contact with family/ friends in Mexicoand central America.
Those saying that you should deleteWhatsApp don't really offer a valid alternative.
我使用信号作为我的主要短信应用程序，但据我所知，当双方都有信号时，它是最有效的。这在大多数情况下都很好，我的好朋友也使用信号，但我遇到的99％的人都使用他们正常的内置短信应用程序。在美国，WhatsApp并不那么受欢迎，但在墨西哥，每个人都使用它。对于像我这样的人来说，这是与墨西哥和中美洲的家人/朋友保持联系的唯一途径。那些说你应该删除WhatsApp的人真的没有提供有效的选择。
SureBonus
7 points·32 minutes ago
No it's still a dummy account with nopersonal info facebook can abuse. I personally haven't tried it but a friend ofmine does. It seems to work really well except some people not so close to himcall him by his his fake name. Everyone else just views his facebook pseudonymas a nickname
不，它仍然是一个虚拟帐户，没有个人信息可以让Facebook滥用。我个人没有尝试过，但是我的一个朋友试过。它似乎工作得很好，除了一些不那么亲近的人用他的假名称呼他。其他人只是将他的facebook假名视为昵称
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MisanthropeX
10 points·21 minutes ago
Facebook keeps "shadow profiles"on people who don't have facebook accounts by harvesting information from theirfriends, and the second you sign up with an account that information is linkedto you. You absolutely cannot keep a "dummy account," facebook hasways to get around that.
Facebook通过从他们的朋友那里获取信息来保留没有facebook帐户的人的“影子资料”，第二，你注册了一个账号，上面的信息就会和你产生链接。你不能保持一个绝对的“虚拟账户”，Facebook有办法解决这个问题。
XXX-XXX-XXX
37 points·1 hour ago
Just have the account and not postanything, only log on once a day on the same pc every time to check messagesand event invites only.
Thats what I do, my extended family has alarge group that we all use to keep in touch and plan get togethers, and myreserve uses it to update on things in the community and opportunities likefree classes and workshops and events.
I also deleted every single like, group,note, app, etc. I might use their service, but the only data they can get fromme is personal messages, which admittedly is still an uncomfortable invasion,but I mean, its inconsequential.
只需拥有该帐户而不发布任何内容，只能在同一台PC上每天登录一次，以便仅查看邮件和活动邀请。我就是这么干的，我的大家庭有一个大的群组，我们都用它来保持联系并计划聚会，我把它保留起来使用它来更新社区里的事情，获得像是免费课程，研讨会和聚会活动的机会。我也删除了每一个像是群组，笔记，应用程序之类的东西。我可能会使用他们的服务，但他们可以从我这里得到的唯一数据是个人信息，这无疑是一种令人不舒服的入侵，但我的意思是，它无关紧要。
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