Blake Griffin ordered to pay $258K a month in child support
法庭判決格里芬每個月需（向孩子他媽，也就是格里芬前女友）支付25.8萬美元的撫養費
[–]sop1232 2165 指標 19 小時前Blake Griffin's baby mama will make more than IT...
格里芬孩子他媽即將比小托馬斯掙得都多……
[–]Bucksdichloroethane 281 指標 16 小時前
6 mil pre tax equivalent is more than a lot of players in the league
（這每個月交二十五萬八）等於NBA的稅前六百萬美元合同啊。比聯盟裡很多球員掙得都多。
[–]fdoom 69 指標 11 小時前
Does child support get taxed?
撫養費還要被扣稅嗎？
[–]SunsTheConboy22 145 指標 10 小時前
The person paying it gets taxed on gross and then the child support is distributed from their net. Know from first hand experience with it.
支付撫養費的人需要按總量交稅，然後撫養費的實際金額是扣完稅之後的淨值。別問我是怎麼知道的，親身經歷。
[–]Clipperscata1yst622 125 指標 10 小時前
So what you're saying is the baby momma is making 258k/mo AFTER taxes?
快船球迷：所以你的意思是孩子他媽每月能掙25.8萬美金？而且還是稅！後！？！
[–]GrizzliesStasis20 117 指標 9 小時前
That is correct. Child support is not deductible from the income of the payor, and it is not taxable income for the recipient.
Source: I'm a domestic relations attorney.
正確。撫養費並不會從支付人的總收入中直接扣除，而且對於獲得撫養費的人來說這筆收入是不被徵稅的。
消息源：我是一個專門打理婚姻關係的律師。
[–]reaganbill 136 指標 11小時前
前面三條分別是字母哥、格蘭特和羅斯的慈善活動。
最後一條是本樓的新聞：法庭判決格里芬將支付每個月25萬8的撫養費。
[–]Thunderxkenn 79 指標 9小時前
Blake giving back to the community by funding a 1 family scholarship 3 mil a year.
格里芬回饋社會的方式就是為一個家庭每年提供3百萬美元的資金支持。
[–]VFRosterbaters 740 指標 12小時前
Tbh this isn’t even funny to me. It doesn’t take $50 mill to raise a kid. IMO Blake just had millions stolen by the court system and that’s completely fucked
說實話我甚至不認為這很好笑。養孩子可不需要五千萬美元啊。就我看來，格里芬被美國的法律體系偷走了數百萬美金，這簡直太操蛋了。
[–]VenetianCares 823 指標 18小時前
divorce laws are so archaic. look at Brendan Fraser, dude is expected to fork over Mummy salary money and he's been out the game for years. let's just admit it, the divorce court system is a theft system to rob men of their hard earned money and put it back into the economy with shoe and Louis V bag purchases.
離婚法實在是太古老了。看看布蘭登-弗雷澤吧，這傢伙為了支付撫養費預計要花光他飾演《木乃伊》的全部薪水，而且他已經很多年不再演戲了。咱們就承認吧，離婚法體系就是強盜，專門掠奪男人們辛辛苦苦掙的錢，然後轉過頭就通過買高跟鞋LV包拉動了GDP。
[–]shanmustafa 1815 指標 20小時前she got the fucking bag, the youngest child is 2, so that's 16 years of 258k a month, so around 50m for 16 years jesus christ
Blake has made 130m in his NBA salary, and is going to make 140m the next 4 , so with all that and off court money, I hope he's saving up
她是特麼賺大了。她最年幼的孩子只有兩歲，這意味著她還能領16年每月二十五萬八的撫養費，所以說一共是5千萬美元，額滴神啊。
格里芬在NBA一共賺了1.3億美元，接下來的4年他還能賺1.4億美元，這些錢加上他場外賺的錢……嗯，我希望他已經養成存錢的好習慣了。
[–]Pistonsdrcash360-2ndaccount 2077 指標 19小時前
She doesn't need 50 million to raise a kid
養個孩子可不需要五千萬美元啊。
[–]FENDERHEAD1946 626 指標 16小時前
Fifffty million dollas!?!?!
你說的是五……五千萬美元嗎！？
[–]Pistonstikihut_wut 633 指標 16小時前
who you think you got!? chelsea clinton!???
你以為你生的是什麼？切爾西-克林頓嗎？？？[譯註1]
[譯註1] 切爾西·維多利亞·克林頓。美國前總統威廉·傑斐遜·克林頓和希拉里·克林頓的獨生女兒。
[–]WarriorsHunter-2_0 203 指標 14小時前
"The fuck you need 100k a year to raise a baby? I could raise my whole hood 6 times with that kind of paper all babies need is somethin to rattle and someone to wipe they ass"
引用Reddit傳奇用戶YungSnuggie的名言：“養個孩子幹什麼特麼需要每年十萬美元？這些錢夠我把整個小區的孩子翻來覆去養六遍了。孩子只需要有點什麼東西玩和擦屁股的東西好吧！”
[–]Jazznosferobots 338 指標 17小時前He doesn't need $140m over the next 4. But he earned that money, and the idea is that the child should be entitled to the same lifestyle as if the father were in the home and primarily responsible.
雖然格里芬在接下來4年內並不需要全部的1.4億美元，但是那是他掙得錢啊，咱國家離婚法的這個原則就是，（父母離婚後）孩子應該享有同樣的生活方式，就好像父親還在養家一樣。
I agree there should be limits, and there should definitely be restructuring when the fathers financial status changes, and there should be protections against the mother being the primary beneficiary.
我同意撫養費的金額有個上限，同時當孩子父親的經濟狀況有變時，撫養費的金額也應該隨之改變，而且也應該有相應措施來防止母親成為第一受益人。
[–]acava2424 524 指標 16小時前
60% of that money should into a trust that mommy cant touch imo.
我覺得吧，撫養費的百分之六十應該直接進入信託基金，讓孩子他媽碰都不能碰一下。
[–]Raptorsjtangredi4 469 指標 14小時前
Being the son of a mother who received a nice payday in divorce court, this is 100% accurate. Never saw a dime of that money, just witnessed my mom take expensive trips to Thailand and spend 50k on shopping.
作為一名離婚後得到了一筆不錯撫養費的母親的兒子，樓上幾個老哥說得太對了。我是一毛錢都沒見著，光看見我媽去泰國豪華遊然後購物花五萬了。
[–]acava2424 115 指標 14小時前
That's disgusting, still have any relationship with her?
這事有點噁心啊，你和她還聯繫嗎？
[–]Raptorsjtangredi4 361 指標 14小時前*
Not really after she kicked me out with no where to go and had me arrested by telling the police she felt scared of me. There's some weird law in Canada that allows you to be detained in a mental institute for 24 hrs if a family member or guardian claims you are a danger to yourself or others, then if the Dr. deems you okay you will be released.
上面的網友：她把我趕出了家門使我無家可歸，然後她還報警說害怕我使我被逮捕。在這以後我們基本上就沒什麼往來了。加拿大有個奇怪的法律，如果你的家屬或監護人聲稱你對於自己或他人是一種威脅，那麼你就會在一個精神/心理機構被拘留24小時，過後如果醫生覺得你沒問題了，你就可以走人了。
Shit was traumatizing I just woke up to 6 officers in my room telling me to put my hands behind my back and read me my rights. The officers were even trying to convince her to charge me with something even more serious, they're immediate inclination is to get you in as much trouble as possible.
那可真給我留下不小心陰影。我剛一睡醒，就發現6個警察在我的房間裡，他們讓我把手放到背後，然後開始宣讀我的權利。那些警察甚至想說服我媽用一些更嚴重的理由起訴我，他們的意圖是讓你陷入儘可能多的麻煩中。
Even the hospital staff still really isn't on your side. Shit is really messed up. Men abusing women is a real problem, but nobody talks about the tendency of women to pretend they're in a violent situation when they're not. 9/10 times people will believe the woman. After that I basically wanted nothing to do with her, I talk with her cordially but honestly I just want to move on.
甚至連醫院的員工都不站在你這邊。是真tm操蛋。男人對女人使用家庭暴力的確是個嚴重的問題，但是卻沒有人想到有些女人會假裝自己被施暴了。10次裡有9次人們都會選擇相信女人。在那件事以後，我基本上就不想和她有任何瓜葛了。我有時候還是會跟她禮節性地聯繫聯繫，但是說真的，我真的只想翻篇了。
[–]CavaliersThe_baboons_ass 217 指標 14小時前
Had a very similar, but not as bad experience. My mum and dad split when I was growing up. My dad gave my mum 70k a year to just raise me and my 2 older sisters. She spent it all on white linen clothes she never wore. Then my mum would get mad at me for talking to my dad about football and not asking for more money.
我也有過類似的經歷，但並沒你那麼糟糕。我爸媽在我小時候分開了。我爸每年給我媽七萬刀來養活我和我的兩個姐姐。這些錢全被我媽用來買白色亞麻衣了，可是她也從來沒穿過。然後如果我和我爸談論橄欖球而不是找他要錢，我媽就會對我發飆。
Once my sisters hit 18 and I was approaching that age, my mum found and got pregnant with another rich dude. My mum also got me arrested for putting a clean dish in a dirty dishwasher. She called the cops because I was being disrespectful. The cop arrested me for assault and battery of a police officer because when he tried shoving me, I instinctively shrugged him off.
等到了我姐滿十八歲而且我自己也快成人的時候，我媽找了另一個有錢人還懷孕了。然後我媽也報警給我抓起來了，就因為我把一個乾淨的盤子放到了髒的洗碗機裡。她報警，理由是我不尊重人。警察以襲警罪逮捕了我，因為警察試圖去推搡我的時候我本能地聳了一下肩，把他的手打下去了。
Thank god my dad paid for me to get a great lawyer or I’d be have been banged up in juvie for longer than the one night I was there. Now my mum has found another rich dude who’s 20 years older than her. Now she’s mad I don’t want to have a very big relationship with her. Fuck women like this. Sorry for the rant, just needed to get this off my chest lol
幸虧我爹給我找了個好律師，要不然我就不止在少管所被揍那一個晚上了。現在我媽又找了另一個比她大20歲的有錢人。然後她還對我不想和她建立什麼真正的母子關係感到很生氣。像這種女人就QTMD吧。發了這麼多牢騷很抱歉，但我只是想傾訴一下。
[–]klawhileonard 2364 指標 20小時前*wtf that’s $55mm for 18 years? I know he’s an nba player and all but wtf that’s absurd for one rawdog
特麼鬧呢？十八年五千五百萬美元？我知道格里芬是個NBA球員什麼的，但是這不帶套的代價也特麼太荒唐了吧。
[–]RaptorsFudgicles1 162 指標 16小時前
She definitely wasn't with him shooting at the gym.
她特麼肯定沒陪格里芬在球館練投籃！[譯註2]
[譯註2]“Stay Schemin”一曲中的歌詞，原句是：“Kobe ’bout to lose a hundred fifty M’s/Kobe my nigga, I hate it had to be him/Bitch you wasn’t with me shooting in the gym”。當時的歌曲創造背景為2012年，科比情婦傳聞愈演愈烈，瓦妮莎正起訴離婚。
[–]PacersGritznGravy23 828 指標 17小時前
Never made a layup in her life.
她這輩子一個籃也沒上進過。[譯註3]
[–]SpursI_ACCEPT_KARMA 290 指標 16小時前
Fucking love bill burr.
我太特麼喜歡Bill Burr了。[譯註3]
[譯註3]美國著名單口相聲表演者、喜劇演員Bill Burr最著名的段子之一就是吐槽傍大款的女人和偽女權主義的。他說到“現在結個婚可太難了啊，男人為什麼想要結婚啊。看看科比吧，七千萬美元馬上就要打水漂了。她老婆這輩子一個籃都沒上進過，結果現在要掙7000萬嘍。”當時的背景也是瓦妮莎和科比的離婚事件。原視頻鏈接：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0gaYyNk7QA&t=489s
[–]AmericanOSX 85 指標 12小時前
To be fair, she did play college basketball at USC. I don’t like this ruling, but she has likely made a layup in her life
說句公道話，格里芬孩子他媽是南加州大學女籃的。我也不喜歡這個判決，但是她確實是上進過籃的。
[–]PacersGritznGravy23 257 指標 15小時前
She's a baby sitter... with a quarter of a billion fucking dollars
她就是個看孩子的！……只不過兜裡有2.5億美元而已。[譯註4]
[–]SpursMatHatesGlitter 141 指標 13小時前
We have an epidemic of gold digging whores.
咱們國家如今正在蔓延名為“傍大款拜金婊”的一股瘟疫。[譯註4]
[譯註4]同樣出自Bill Burr那次吐槽。2.5億美元是吐槽泰格-伍茲老婆拿到的贍養費。
[–]KingsTheFoxKing5 1307 指標 20小時前It's an absolute joke. Our court system is so unfair it's not even funny. Another baby mama getting a free ride in life.
What's worse is that judges often won't reduce it even after his income goes down. And the worst part? It's post-tax and is not deductible. He's gotta make like $90 million to pay off that $55 million. What a travesty.
這完全就是個笑話。咱們的法律體系實在太不公平了，這一點都不好笑。又一個孩子他媽這輩子吃穿無憂了。
更操蛋的是，當男方收入降低以後，法官甚至經常不會相應地降低撫養費。最操蛋的你們猜是什麼？這筆贍養費是稅後的實際金額！而且還不能免稅！格里芬要付清這5千5百萬美元的撫養費需要淨賺9000萬美元！太荒唐了吧。
[–]Fuglylol 298 指標 16小時前
So after tax she gets like a third of his career earnings? What a joke.
她相當於得到了格里芬生涯三分之一的稅後收入？真是個笑話啊。
[–]sop1232 324 指標 20小時前
Unless you have a girl like Savannah James, get a vasectomy if you're in the nba. 258k a month wtf.
除非你媳婦是詹嫂那樣的姑娘，如果你在NBA打球，那你最好做個結紮吧。每個月整整25.8萬美元啊，搞特麼什麼啊。
[–]SupersonicsACoolRedditHandle 237 指標 19小時前
freeze some sperm and get the vasectomy. no reason to risk that. 258k a month you could raise a whole goddamn neighborhood of children.
冷凍一些精子，然後做結紮吧。沒有理由去冒這個中出的險。每個月25.8萬美元，你完全可以養活整個小區的孩子了我艹。
[–]Lakerslatotokyo123 174 指標 19小時前
But then Gordon Hayward wouldn't get a boy.
但是那樣的話，海沃德就永遠沒兒子了呀。[譯註5]
[譯註5][美國JRs之聲]海沃德三年三個閨女，想要兒子的心情溢於言表：科比含淚點亮 >>
[–]JazzXsy 732 指標 20小時前Yo, I need to have a kid with an NBA player and then divorce asap.
哎呦我去，我得趕緊跟NBA球員生個小孩，然後再光速離婚。
[–]RaptorsCaptainMuffins_ 429 指標 20小時前
first things first gotta somehow figure out how to have a baby as a guy
首先問題是，作為一個男人怎麼懷孕啊？
[–][LAL] Magic JohnsonPVT_Stanley 313 指標 20小時前
Alright, let’s get to brainstorming fellas.
來吧兄弟們，咱們頭腦風暴一下，都出出主意。
[–]KnicksD0minican 228 指標 19小時前
Come to my house we can keep fucking until you get pregnant
來我家，我們可以一直幹到你懷孕。
[–]NBAProcessTruster 1333 指標 20小時前I can never understand the court's POV on why it costs that much to support a child.
我永遠也不能理解為什麼法院認為養活一個孩子需要花費這麼多錢。
[–]Mavericksxrixxirx 608 指標 20小時前
Shouldn’t have fucked Kendall Jenner while engaged lol
那格里芬本不應該在訂婚後還跟肯達爾-詹娜上床啊。
[–]KnicksTheReal_Slim-Shady 104 指標 11小時前
Another Kardashian to ruin a NBA player lol
又一個NBA球員被卡戴珊家族的人吸乾了哈哈哈。
[–]Celticsdestiny24 261 指標 16小時前
People get cheated on all the time, you don’t reward them with $250K a year.
被戴綠帽子是常有的事，但也不至於給每年二十五萬美元的賠償金啊！
[–]Wizardsdagrapeescape 330 指標 13小時前
It’s per month, that’s12x as crazy...
是每個月二十五萬，比你的數字瘋狂了整整十二倍哦……
[–]klawhileonard 432 指標 20小時前Well you have to pay for food, education, college tuition etc...and then there’s the essentials like baby momma Gucci handbags, baby momma lambo for driving the kid to school, baby momma vacations to the villa in Paris, and basic stuff like the Versace dresses. God forbid the generic thot baby momma not spend summers in France and winters in a Beverly Hills condo
這個吧，咱要細究的話……有食物、教育、大學學費等開銷……然後還有那些生活必需品，比如孩子他媽牌古馳手提包，孩子他媽牌送孩子上學款蘭博基尼，孩子他媽牌巴黎別墅N日遊，還有一些基礎的東西，像是範思哲的裙子啦什麼的。要是孩子他媽不能在法國避暑，不能在比佛利山莊的豪宅裡過冬，那上帝都看不下去了呀！
[–]RaptorsKonfliction 348 指標 20小時前
Here’s a simple way to explain it.
The child’s life shouldn’t drastically change. That’s their goal. So this is basically taking into account how much he earns and what would give the kid the same quality of life.
I disagree with the system, but that’s essentially the mindset.
簡單解釋一下：
（父母離婚後）孩子的生活質量不應該發生巨大的變化。這是法院的目的。所以判決不光考慮到了男方的收入情況，還考慮到了男方要付出多少錢才能保證孩子的生活質量不變。
我並不同意這個體系，但基本上他們就是這麼個想法吧。
Another good example, imagine three kids. Two done college. Third in real young.. but parents get divorced. The aim is that child should have the same quality of life as the other kids, so the amount the courts settle on for payments is aiming to keep that even. If the first two kids went to a realllly good school, the payments will reflect that.
我再舉一個不錯的例子，想象下你有三個孩子。兩個已經完成了大學學業。第三個還非常小……但是父母突然離婚了。法院的目的是想讓這個孩子有著和其他兩個孩子同等質量的生活，所以法院判決的撫養費金額是為了一碗水端平。如果前兩個孩子去了非常非常好的大學，那最小孩子的撫養費也會體現出這點的。
The intent is so that you can’t just walk out on your family and ruin their fucking lives. But it’s the most inflexible system ever.
撫養費的意圖是你不能說走就走然後徹底破壞了孩子的生活。但同時這也是史以來最死板的法律體系了。
It’s flawed because if the Dad loses work, it doesn’t mater.. still gotta make those payments. Very hard to lower that. Which is insane because if they were still married and the Dad lost his job, the quality of life of the child would drop anyways.. but the courts seem to ignore that part and force the dads to work like maniacs to keep it at a certain level. Which to a degree I understand, but it’s also nuts. It’s such a weird system.
它有很大的缺陷，因為如果孩子的父親失去了工作，撫養費根本就不變……該付的錢你照樣還得付。很難降低。這很瘋狂，因為如果男方沒有離婚但後來沒了工作，那孩子的生活質量還是會降低啊……可是法院似乎忽視了那部分，他們逼迫父親們像瘋子一樣工作來保持孩子的生活水平。在某種程度上我可以理解，但這還是太扯淡了。離婚法體系相當奇怪。
[–]IBeBallinOutaControl 171 指標 17小時前
It should be capped at what people with Blake's salary typically spend on their kids though. No way would they be spending anything like this kind of money on the kid if they were still together, college tuition included.
就對拿到格里芬級別薪水的人來講，孩子的撫養費應該有個上限。如果沒離婚，他們也絕對不可能在孩子身上花那麼多錢啊，包括學費在內也不可能。
[–]Trail Blazersmatrixreloaded 132 指標 16小時前
right? regardless of his child support situation Blake never would have spent 258 fucking thousand dollars a goddamn month on his kid... on second thought, fucking nobody does. this is straight robbery.
我說也是啊。不管撫養費是多少吧，格里芬永遠也不可能在他的孩子身上一個月花25.8萬啊！……我再仔細一想，特麼沒有任何人會在自己孩子上花一個月二十五萬八美元啊！這簡直就明搶。
[–]ColdCocking 163 指標 14小時前
His child could literally live in Disney World snorting cotton candy off high-class Minnie Mouse escorts for less than 258k a month.
他孩子就算是直接住在迪斯尼樂園裡，然後每天在米妮技師的肉體上玩棉花糖調教，也花不了一個月二十五萬八啊！
[–]hisBOYelroy420 151 指標 17小時前God damn Baby Mama got that 18yr/$55M
我了個去，孩兒他媽喜提十八年五千五百萬美元大合同。
[–]ClippersTangentkoala 144 指標 18小時前
Btwww shes also getting child support from an nfl player too
順便說一下，她現在還從一個NFL球員那領著撫養費呢。
[–]Supersonicskoticgood 109 指標 11小時前
180k a year from Matt Leinart
馬特-雷納特每年向她支付18萬美金的撫養費。[譯註6]
[譯註6]馬特-雷納特。格里芬前女友的前男友，與格里芬前女友有一個孩子。
[–]NBA2ook 250 指標 18小時前
So Blake is already paying for the girl's house and the judge wants 200k on top of that? How can you possibly spend 200k a month on children? Especially if blake would most likely finance his family's travels regardless of the courts decision.
所以，格里芬現在已經在為那個女人的房子付錢了，然後法官還要他支付20萬撫養費？一個人怎麼可能一個月為孩子花費20萬美元？尤其是法院不管怎麼判，估計格里芬都會很願意支付他家庭的旅遊費用啊。
[–]Thunderosj777 251 指標 16小時前
that kid ain't going see even 20% of that money
那孩子連這筆錢的20%都看不到。
[–]pochinkiboy 122 指標 10小時前
50k a month? The kid won’t see 2% of that money
你說5萬美元一個月？那孩子連2%都看不到吧。
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