外國網友評:為何一些富人穿的跟流浪漢一樣?附評論

Why do some wealthy people dress like bums?

為何一些富人穿的跟流浪漢一樣?


外國網友評:為何一些富人穿的跟流浪漢一樣?附評論


評論翻譯:

I have a $14 mil. plus net worth. Selfmate and in my mid-40’s. My income is $650k per year. Here is what I pay for clothing - My max is - $60 for jeans, $60 for a shirt, $100 for shoes. My suits, slacks, and blazers are tailor made during my overseas trips (I travel a lot for pleasure). I buy the top notch material online from the UK, Italy and France usually ( $250 on sale) and I pay $100 to the tailors overseas (Balkans, Turkey, Eastern Europe). If I ordered the same bespoke suits in the US they would range around $2500. I buy clothes twice a year and that is it. I do have 12 watches that are worth $150k altogether.

I work for myself so I do not have to abide by a dress-code. It is not unusual to see me with a drivers cap, a t-shirt, and Lucky Brand jeans, a pair of Puma El Rey’s and my Breuget Type XXI Flyback or a Lacoste shirt (always buy them on sale), Old Navy jeans, Penguin shoes and Glashutte Original Senator Diary.

I do not own any Versace. Tom Ford, or Gucci.

I like watches because If you buy them at the right price you can recover your money 100% or near it. Heck sometimes even make money on them. I’m also fascinated by high horology. But that is a whole different subject.

Do I look like a bum? Perhaps most of the times, unless you see me at a wedding where I’m wearing one of my hand tailored 140’s suit and my Vacheron Constantin Patrimony.

Now answer me this - Why do guys that are barely able to pay their bills try and dress like they are rich? I have associates and people that depend on my business and are barely eking out a living show up in $200 jeans (True Religion), waiting 1 hour before their checks are printed.

To attract a mate? I don''''t have that problem . To try and impress their family and friends? All I worry about is impressing “ME”. To try and land a business deal? I beyond that.

It’s a sad state of affairs. The rich dress like bums and the poor dress like movie stars. In short the rich dress like bums because they can dress like bums, the poor dress flashy because … well I don''''t know the answer to that?

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我有1400萬美元。加上淨值。我40多歲,年收入650k美元。這是我買衣服的錢——我的最高限額是——牛仔褲60美元,襯衫60美元,鞋子100美元。我的西裝、休閒褲和運動夾克都是在我出國旅行期間量身定做的(我經常旅行是為了消遣)。我通常從英國、意大利和法國在線購買頂級材料(減價250美元),並向海外裁縫店(巴爾幹半島、土耳其、東歐)支付100美元。如果我在美國訂購同樣的定製西裝,價格大概在2500美元左右。我一年買兩次衣服,就是這樣。我有12塊手錶,總共值15萬美元。

我為自己工作,所以不必遵守著裝規定。看到我戴著司機帽,穿著t恤,穿著幸運牌牛仔褲,一條彪馬和我的布呂蓋特XXI型回力鞋,或者一件拉科斯特襯衫(總是在特價時買),穿著舊的海軍牛仔褲,企鵝鞋和Glashutte參議員日記本,這並不稀奇。

我沒有範思哲。湯姆·福特,或者古奇。

我喜歡手錶,因為如果你買的價格合適,你可以收回你的錢100%或接近它。他媽的有時候甚至靠他們賺錢。我也對高等鐘錶學著迷。但這是一個完全不同的主題。

我看起來像個流浪漢嗎?也許大多數時候,除非你在婚禮上看到我,我穿著一套手工縫製的140號西裝和我的江詩丹頓遺產。

現在回答我-為什麼那些幾乎沒錢付賬單的男人會穿得像有錢人一樣?我的同事和人都依賴於我的生意,穿著200美元的牛仔褲(真正的宗教信仰)勉強維持生計,在支票打印前等了一個小時。

為了吸引伴侶?我沒有這個問題。為了給家人和朋友留下好印象?我所擔心的就是給“我”留下深刻印象。嘗試達成一項商業交易?我超越了這一點。

這是一種可悲的狀況。有錢人穿得像流浪漢,窮人穿得像電影明星。簡而言之,有錢人穿得像流浪漢是因為他們可以穿得像流浪漢,而窮人穿得華麗是因為……我不知道答案?


I think it has a lot to do with the fact people feel empty inside and don’t quite understand their purpose and/or won’t pursue it. So instead they try to buy their happiness and self-worth. I know because I tried desperately in my mid twenties. I had bought things I had no business buying. Especially as a broke kid fresh out of school with a shit ton of debt. But that’s what main stream america taught me how to live my life. Make money and consume the country.

我認為這與人們內心感到空虛,不太理解他們的目的或不願追求它有很大關係。

因此,他們試圖用金錢來實現自己的幸福和自我價值。我知道,因為我在25歲左右的時候拼命嘗試過。我買了不該買的東西。特別是作為一個剛從學校畢業,揹負著一大堆債務的破產孩子。

但,這就是美國主流教會我如何生活的——賺錢,消費。


Comes down to insecurity of one’s station in life and overcompensation with material obxts and status symbols to impress others. The American hamster wheel. But it stimulates the economy and markets so that the truly wealthy further profit. Like the saying goes…Big hat but no cattle.

歸結起來就是,一個人的生活中地位的不安全感和用物質、地位的象徵來給別人留下深刻印象的過度補償。

美國的倉鼠輪。

但這可以刺激經濟和市場,讓真正富有的人獲得更多利潤。就像俗話說的,光鮮其外敗絮其中。


Wow!!! This phenomenon is very fascinating and worth studying.

哇! ! !這種現象非常有趣,值得研究。


You can find more in depth information in other areas of Quora..though I’m too lazy for a lix. The basic theory is that everyone tries to impress those in their economic sphere by sending signals. These signals of wealth or at least of stability can be cell phones (poor), Euro cars (middle class), or for the wealthy- the ability to be indifferent. This can sometimes be seen in the workplace. I find it a bit fantastic to believe the majority of wealthy have things like yachts or personal jets. Most of what I see are ‘millionaire next door’ types who either own a blue collar business or folks that no longer need to work since their residual income is greater than a modest lifestyle. Interesting to note are those that want six figure jobs out of law/medical school without realizing that they come with 65–70 hour work weeks. Divide that up, subtract taxes and you are at what, $20 an hour? Same as my uncle pays welders at his business. Yet think about the lifestyles associated with these positions and also where these jobs are located. $20 an hour with a German auto and downtown Boston/Chicago/LA apartment is laughable. Best advice I ever got was when I was 18 and had $7200 to my name thinking I was rich. Other family members smirked and said that if you have under $10,000 you are broke, even with low overhead. Second best advice was Mark Cuban saying that you should keep your expenses as low as humanly possible so you are free to do what you want in life. Very true. My favorite reason a friend gave to me about why she was broke included the fact that she just didn’t care- she didn’t want to be restricted in life so she spends all her money and has a hell of a time doing it. I love it!

你可以在Quora的其他地方找到更有深度的信息。我太懶了,就不貼出鏈接了。

基本理論是,每個人都試圖通過發出信號,在自己的經濟領域給人留下深刻印象。這些財富象徵或至少是穩定的信號可以是手機(窮人)、歐洲汽車(中產階級),也可以是對富人的冷漠。這有時可以在工作場所看到。

我覺得相信大多數富人都擁有遊艇或私人飛機有點不可思議。我看到的大多數都是“鄰家百萬富翁”類型的人,他們要麼是擁有藍領企業,要麼是不再需要工作的人,因為他們的剩餘收入已經超過了適度的生活方式。

值得注意的是,那些想從法學院或醫學院畢業後從事六位數收入工作的人,並沒有意識到他們每週工作65-70個小時。除掉它,減去稅金,你的工資是多少,每小時20美元?就像我叔叔在他的公司裡給焊工發工資一樣。

但是想想與這些職位相關的生活方式以及這些工作的位置。20美元一小時、德國車和波士頓/芝加哥/洛杉磯市中心的公寓這種組合是可笑的。

我得到的最好的建議是在我18歲的時候,當時我名下有7200美元,以為自己很富有。其他家庭成員傻笑著說,如果你的錢不足1萬美元,就算你的日常開支很低,你也破產了。第二好的建議是Mark Cuban說的:你應該儘可能地把開支控制在最低水平,這樣你就可以自由地做你想做的事情。

非常正確。我最喜歡的一個朋友給我的關於她為什麼破產的理由是,她根本不在乎——她不想在生活中受到限制,所以她把所有的錢都花光了,沉浸其中。

我愛這點!


I’m not going to post an actual picture but one of my neighbors dresses and looks almost identical to Richard from Silicon Valley:

The starting price for a home in this neighborhood is around 2.5M and his home is probably worth closer to 4M.

And he dresses this way every single day…

And he is not alone…

Almost every other person in my neighborhood dresses in the same casual attire void of any branding and logos. Do they look like “bums”? No, but they definitely don’t dress in a manner that says, “hey, look at me”.

If you ran into my neighbor on the street, you would probably not give him a second look and if you did, you probably would assume he is going to have trouble making this month’s rent lol…

What is funny is that less than a mile away there are a lot of small condos and you constantly see the women living there carrying LV bags and guys sporting all sort of clothing with high-end branding, while most of them are living paycheck-to-paycheck.

I have noticed that the wealthy don’t seem to feel that it’s necessary to bring attention to the fact that they are wealthy and those that wish they were wealthy, want to appear in a manner that makes them look wealthy. It’s quite amusing.

Then there is the super wealthy and most of them will only wear branded clothing that they have a vested interest in. In other words, unless they own the company, or at least a part of it, they aren’t going to walk around advertising their competitors. But that’s on an entirely other level :)

Here is the way I see it…

If we are truly honest with ourselves, there are probably only 2 or 3 things that you are REALLY into and you should feel free to spend your hard earned money on those things.

So if you are into fashion, by all means… buy and wear the clothing that you like.

Where the issues start is when you begin spending money on things that you don’t really care about because you want to impress other people.

That’s something most wealthy people simply don’t do. If they aren’t into shoes, they aren’t going to spend 1k on a pair of Gucci loafers. Regardless if they can easily afford it or not. While someone else will max out their credit card so they can try and impress someone that they don’t even like…

So whether it’s clothes, watches, cars or whatever… if you are truly into it and if you have the means to enjoy those luxuries, go for it. Just forget about the rest of the stuff you don’t really care about. At the end of the day, the only person you should be worried about impressing is yourself.

Paul Howey, Talkroute公司CE

我不會發布一張真實的照片,但是我的一個鄰居的衣服看起來幾乎和來自硅谷的理查德一模一樣:

而他的房子看起來是這樣的:

在這個街區,一套房子的起拍價約為250萬美元,而他的房子的價值可能接近400萬美元。但他每天都穿成那樣……而他這樣的人並不孤單(不是隻有他才穿成這樣)。

在我的社區裡,幾乎每個人都穿著同樣的休閒服裝,沒有任何品牌和標識。他們看起來像“混蛋”嗎?不,但他們絕對不會打扮成那種“嘿,看看我”的樣子。

如果你在街上碰到我的鄰居,你可能不會多看他一眼,如果你看了,你可能會認為他這個月的房租會有問題,哈哈。

有趣的是,在不到一英里的地方,有很多小公寓,你經常看到住在那裡的女人拎著LV包包,男人穿著各種高檔服裝,而他們大多數人都是靠工資生活。我注意到,富人似乎不覺得有必要讓人們注意到他們是富有的,而那些希望自己是富有的人,則希望以一種讓自己看起來富有的方式出現,這很有趣。此外,還有超級富豪,他們中的大多數人只穿自己感興趣的品牌服裝。換句話說,除非他們擁有這家公司,或者至少是公司的一部分,否則他們不會到處宣傳自己的競爭對手。當然那完全是另一個層面的事兒了/笑

以下是我的看法:

如果我們真的對自己誠實,可能只有2到3件事是你真正喜歡的,你應該把你的辛苦錢花在這些事情上。所以,如果你對時尚感興趣,一定要買自己喜歡的衣服穿。當你開始把錢花在你並不真正關心的事情上,因為你想給別人留下深刻印象時,問題就出現了。

這是大多數富人根本不會做的事情。如果他們不喜歡鞋子,他們就不會花1000美元買一雙古馳(Gucci)的懶人鞋。不管他們是否能輕鬆負擔得起。而另一些人會刷爆他們的信用卡,這樣他們就可以試著給他們不喜歡的人留下深刻印象……所以無論是衣服、手錶、汽車還是別的什麼,如果你真的喜歡它,如果你有能力享受這些奢侈品,那就去吧。但要忘掉那些你並不真正關心的事情。在一天結束的時候,你唯一需要關心的人就是你自己。


外國網友評:為何一些富人穿的跟流浪漢一樣?附評論


Luxury brands are primarily for poor to middle class people who want to look rich. I admit I do have some “nice” clothes but nice for me is a 35 dollar dress shirt or pants and dress shoes/boots that are just south of $200 (which I’ll wear everyday for 5–6 years). You just don’t really see truly wealthy people (outside of entertainment) flaunting there wealth.

奢侈品牌主要是針對那些想要看起來富有的窮人和中產階級。

我承認我確實有一些“好”衣服,但對我來說最好的是一件35美元的襯衫或褲子和200美元的靴子(我每天穿,穿個5-6年)。你只是沒有看到真正富有的人(娛樂圈之外)炫耀財富。


Quick, somebody tell the Kardashians with their Hermes Birkin purses and designer clothes they are poor.

快啊,來人告訴卡戴珊姐妹不要用她們的愛馬仕鉑金包和名牌衣服,她們其實很窮。


Just see the average followers of the Kardashians. As stated on the original answers “most of them will only wear branded clothing that they have an invested interest in”.

Kardashians won’t pay for the Hermes Birkin purse she got paid to wear on a event or post, but some of their million followers, who live paycheck to paycheck, will.

看看卡戴珊姐妹的粉絲就知道了。

正如最初的答案所述,“他們中的大多數人只會穿他們感興趣的品牌服裝”。卡戴珊不會為她在活動或帖子上戴的愛馬仕鉑金包掏錢,但她的百萬粉絲中有一部分人會為此掏錢。


My mom loves those expensive brand items. Not for show, but that’s just what she loves! She has good eyes for fashion, and I am kind of similar but with a different style.

Through her, I learned that most of the luxury brand items that she bought were of the best quality that has kept their shape for decades. A lot of them are older than me! That is what my mom goes for; the quality. She doesn’t buy into trends (unless she thinks the trend is good), she just buys what she likes! We agree that there’s no point in pretending to be rich by showing off, because you’ll be respected anyway as long as you’re well mannered and look neat.

我媽媽喜歡那些昂貴的名牌商品。不是為了炫耀,但那正是她喜歡的!她對時尚很有眼光,而我有點類似,但風格不同。

通過她,我瞭解到她買的大多數奢侈品都是質量最好的,幾十年來一直保持著它們的質量。它們很多比我的年齡都要大!

質量,這就是我媽媽喜歡的。

她不買潮流貨(除非她認為潮流很好),她只買她喜歡的!我們一致認為,通過炫耀來假裝富有是沒有意義的,因為只要你舉止得體,看起來整潔,無論如何你都會被尊重。


Answered Jul 15, 2018A lot of wealthy people are self made and came from absolutely nothing. They grew up with hand me downs, clothing that was too big or too small. Fashionable clothes are UNCOMFORTABLE most of time. When dressed to the nines you feel you are wearing someone else''''s clothes it''''s not who you are. The saying you never "forget where you come from" can also say, "you never forget how it feels where you came from." Women who grew up poor who can afford a pair of Jimmy Choos will wear them only to regret it within 5 minutes. Never having any nice shoes or even small heels throughout their younger years leaves them with experiencing a very low tolerance to the pain or even being able to properly walk in them. The same goes for men the crafted leather shoes are suffocating and irritating.When you are wealthy and get to know a lot of wealthy people the super wealthy kind- the ones that hold chartible fundraising Gallas/parties to raise money for the homeless at their 30 million plus estates, but would never actually sit down with a homeless person. You realize just how artificial everything and everyone is. You again feel suffocated by the fact you never really are talking to an actual person, but rather an act.You become very aware the majority of people trying to connect with you are shallow have no real genuine desire for actual friendship, but are simply working your affections to get money, opportunity or power in some form from you. Dressing down weeds out the people who are simply gold diggers or opportunistic.When it comes to finding a partner you don''''t want to attract someone who only wants you for your money. One of the biggest red flags to watch out for if you desire a very loving relationship is to avoid those that show their wealth and flaunt it to attract the opposite sex. This type of person is what you call a transactional relationship. You get to enjoy all my possessions if I choose you! Your property, if you can be bought easily you can also be sold easily.You want to be treated like everyone else. You don''''t like it when everyone everywhere treats you as if you are above them, that you are special and deserve to get the VIP treatment. Many people think this is a dream come true, but again you just want reality not artificiality. You don''''t want to be the center of attention in a monetary way. You want to be seen for who you are, not what you have.

答案是2018A年7月15日很多有錢人都是白手起家的,一無所獲。他們從小就穿著太大或太小的衣服。時髦的衣服大多數時候都不舒服。當你穿到九分的時候,你會覺得你穿的是別人的衣服,而不是你自己。說你永遠不會“忘記你來自何方”也可以說,“你永遠不會忘記你來自何方的感覺”,那些窮得買不起一雙Jimmy Choos的女人穿上它們,只會在5分鐘內後悔。在他們年輕的時候,從來沒有一雙漂亮的鞋,甚至是一雙小高跟鞋,這會讓他們對疼痛的承受力很低,甚至無法正確地穿鞋走路。男人也一樣,製作的皮鞋讓人窒息,讓人惱火。當你很富有,認識了很多有錢人——超級有錢人——那些在自己的3000多萬套房產裡為無家可歸者籌款的籌款晚會,但從來不會和無家可歸者坐下來。你意識到每件事和每一個人都是多麼的虛偽。你再次感到窒息,因為你從來沒有真正地和一個真實的人交談,而是一種行為。你變得非常清楚,大多數試圖與你建立聯繫的人都是膚淺的,對真正的友誼沒有真正的渴望,而只是在用你的感情從你身上獲得某種形式的金錢、機會或權力。除掉那些只會淘金或投機取巧的人,當你要找一個伴侶的時候,你不想吸引一個只想要你的錢的人。如果你想要一段非常有愛的關係,最需要注意的一個紅旗就是避免那些炫耀財富來吸引異性的人。這種類型的人就是所謂的交易關係。如果我選擇你,你可以享受我所有的財產!你的財產,如果你能很容易地被買走,你也可以很容易地被賣掉。你想和別人一樣被對待。你不喜歡任何地方的人都把你當高於他們的人對待,認為你很特別,應該得到貴賓的待遇。很多人認為這是夢想成真,但你只想現實而不是人為的。你不想成為金錢上的焦點。你想讓別人看到你是誰,而不是你擁有什麼。


Only by looking at other answers to this and other similar questions it is clear that there is a stereotype of two types of clothing:

One that hides wealth,

One that creates an idea of wealth.

Unfotunately, clothing is not about wealth. Most of the people do NOT buy clothes to show or hide wealth. Clothing is an expression of who they are. And this goes for everyone who ever lived and wore clothes. Even if it appears that it is about wealth, it is not. It can be about wanting to be accepted, wanting to appear important, wanting to appear young, desirable. Clothing represents how we want to appear and this is far more complex than money or no money. It has more to do with our relationships with close ones, family, friends, and also our position in society (which is not only vertical) than money.

Clothing is an aesthetic (colors, shapes, etc) choice we make daily. And just as if we had to draw a new picture every day we need to choose new clothing every day. This requires thinking which is not rational and highly emotional.

If some people choose to dress like bums then they are trying to say what they want. Ten people who dress like bums can have ten different reasons.

Generalizing it by how much money they have or which money status they want to project is incorrect.

Overall, all explanations which are based on money are usually wrong. Money, while being very important logically, has very little purpose in the our emotional reality. It is a tool, not a goal. We care about relationships and our society position, not about numbers.

Nikola Tosic, 在BEMapps.com工作

只有通過觀察這個問題和其他類似問題的回答,才能清楚地看出人們對兩種服裝的刻板印象:

1. 隱藏財富的人

2.創造財富思維的人

不幸的是,衣服與財富無關。大多數人買衣服不是為了炫耀或隱藏財富。衣服是他們的一種表達方式。這適用於所有曾經生活和穿著衣服的人。即使表面上看起來是關於財富的,其實不是。它可以是想要被接受,想要顯得重要,想要顯得年輕,想要有吸引力。衣服代表了我們想要的形象,這比錢或沒錢要複雜得多。

它更多地與我們和親密的人、家人、朋友的關係有關,也與我們在社會中的地位(不僅僅是垂直的)有關,而與金錢無關。服裝是我們每天做出的審美(顏色、形狀等)選擇。就像我們每天都要畫一幅新畫一樣,我們每天都需要選擇新衣服。這需要不理性和高度情緒化的思考。

如果有些人選擇穿得像流浪漢,那麼這也是他們想要表現出來的東西。10個穿得像流浪漢的人可能有10個不同的理由。用他們有多少錢或者他們想要投射的錢的狀態來概括是不正確的。

總的來說,所有基於金錢的解釋通常都是錯誤的。金錢,雖然在邏輯上很重要,但在我們的情感現實中卻沒有什麼意義。它是一種工具,而不是一個目標。我們關心的是人際關係和社會地位,而不是一堆數字。


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