罗德曼称如今的得分和三双都太简单，是厚古薄今还是有据可循？
厚古薄今
有据可循
Dennis Rodman: "Michael Jordan led the league in scoring 10 years in a row. Back then that was hard... Now its easy, ya know, all this bullshit triple double"
罗德曼：“乔丹连续10年垄断联盟得分王头衔。那会儿做到这一点是很难的……如今就简单了你懂吧，就像那些狗屁三双。”
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[–]Mitchellsykeslefteye 1481 指標 14小時前
But...no ones done it since
额……可是自乔丹以后就没人达成过这一成就啊？？？？
[–][MIN] Stephon MarburyAaronplane 213 指標 12小時前
Heck, nobody has ever done it. And the most anybody has won in a row since then is 3.
别说自乔丹以后了，历史上根本没人做到过。而且自从乔丹之后，连庄得分王的最高纪录是三次。
[–]Mavericksrvadarocket 398 指標 14小時前
Which makes it all the more impressive, Rodman’s just weird and an idiot.
（回复层主）所以乔丹十连得分王的成就就更不可思议了啊。罗德曼只是很怪又傻而已。
[–]KnicksHovas_Witness 153 指標 12小時前
Fuck to you! North Korea prevail forever!
楼上我可去你的8，朝鲜是永远无法被击败的！
[–]LakersTuneHD 73 指標 11小時前
He's talking about scoring being easy now, not getting every scoring title
罗德曼只是说现在得分现在很简单，不是说垄断得分王很容易。
[–]SpursNotFrankSalazar 64 指標 9小時前
If it's easier for everyone to score wouldn't the scoring title be harder to get, cause of more competition?
如果对每个球员来说得分都变得容易了，那么由于竞争更激烈，拿下得分王岂不是更困难了？
[–][MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpoparkertokounmpo 953 指標 14小時前
That doesn’t make any sense at all.
这都哪跟哪啊……
[–][NYK] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 422 指標 14小時前
When has Rodman ever made sense
罗德曼不是一直都这么让人摸不着头脑吗。
[–][MIL] Giannis Antetokounmpoparkertokounmpo 170 指標 13小時前
I’d get it if he said something like “averaging 30 ppg is easier today” because of the faster pace and better spacing, but leading the league in scoring is relative. It’s not like the scoring leader today plays under different rules than the rest of the NBA. It’s the same for everyone.
如果罗德曼说“在现在的NBA场均拿个三十分更简单了”，那我倒还能理解，因为现在的比赛节奏更快，场上空间更宽广。但拿得分王是相对的事啊。得分王的比赛规则难道还和其他球员不一样了？所有人都受同样的规则限制啊。
[–]ThunderChrowanWestbrook 760 指標 14小時前
I'm really confused what triple doubles have to do with leading the league in scoring
我是非常疑惑，三双和得分王咋扯上关系了？
[–]Raptorsdrdoooom 309 指標 13小時前
i think he's saying they give out stats easier nowadays? no idea.
我猜罗德曼是想说现在的球员更容易打出亮眼数据？我也不懂。
[–]TimberwolvesYepThatsSarcasm 150 指標 13小時前
I believe he’s saying: “People aren’t fighting for everything like they did then. Teams won’t collectively muscle in and fight for every point and rebound.”
But yes, it’s Rodman. Who cares.
我认为罗德曼的意思是：“现在的NBA不像他们当时打球那样激烈了，现在的队伍不会用尽力气为每一分每一个篮板而战了。”
不过啊，这可是罗德曼，谁在乎他说啥呢。
[–]BucksOk_Maize 86 指標 12小時前
The logic doesn't even make any fucking sense. It might be easier to score more points, but it's easier for everyone. So it would always be hard to be #1 in scoring whether they make scoring easier or harder.
罗德曼这特么逻辑根本说不通啊。现如今得分可能是变得更容易了，但这对所有球员来说都是一样的啊。所以，不管这个时代得分是更易或更难，拿得分王的难度都是很高啊。
[–]CelticsJaydadCTatumThe1st 277 指標 14小時前
Only one person can lead the league in scoring. It's both just as hard and just as easy as it has always been.
每年只能有一个得分王。所以难易程度跟以前比根本没有任何变化。
[–]76ersDoctor-Jay 225 指標 14小時前
Dude yeah but when you factor in all the triple doubles bullshit these days, it's easy, ya know?
嚯嚯小汁你错了，你得考虑到现在这些个三双懂吧？拿得分王确实是变简单了，你懂吧？
[–]NBAZarmaka 133 指標 9小時前
The quote was taken out of context. What he said was, "Back then that was hard. Averaged 32 points a game. That was hard back then, now it's easy."
I think he's talking about it being easier to average 32 points per game, not just it being easier to lead the league in scoring. Let's not make fun of a guy for not speaking totally clearly when he was clearly emotionally excited.
主楼的话有点断章取义了。罗德曼得原话是：“场均32分在过去很难，现如今很简单。”
我认为罗德曼想说的是现在场均32分更加容易，而不是领跑得分榜变得更容易了。当一个人情绪激动地表达自己看法时，话可能说得没那么清楚，我们还是不要以此作乐为好。
Also, the triple double thing was a distinct point throwing shade at today's league, and wasn't necessarily supposed to prove his earlier point.
另外，罗德曼提到三双是很明显在埋汰如今的联盟，并不一定是他为了证明之前观点才说的。
[–]SunGlassesAtNite97 131 指標 14小時前
Another old grumpy retired NBA star talking about how their era was so much tougher. Next!
嚯嚯，又一个老来愤愤不平气急败坏的退役球星在吹他们的年代有多硬核，下一个！
[–]Cavalierscampbellhw 189 指標 14小時前
wHy ArE wE aCtInG lIkE tRiPlE dOuBlEs ArE gOoD?
毕竟“三双也没什么出彩”的嘛。
[–]KillerBeesRedux 109 指標 13小時前
You can meme all you want, they've definitely been devalued.
你可以随便玩梗开玩笑，但是三双的价值绝对降低了。
Westbrook is a great rebounder for a guard, but seeing his big box out for Westbrook to grab more uncontested rebounds probably makes Rodman a little peeved since he was a workhorse down low for rebounds.
作为一个后卫，威少算是个很棒的篮板手，但是，当看到雷霆的大个子帮威少卡位让他拿到很多没有对抗的篮板，罗德曼大概多少会有些不高兴，因为他当年为了抢篮板球可算是拼了老命了。
[–]KillerBeesRedux 75 指標 12小時前
Total triple doubles by year for the last 10 years:
过去十年每个赛季的总三双数：
30
23
37
18
42
46
46
75
117
108
Recent changes in pace and play style have made triple-doubles way more common, which is to say less valuable.
近些年比赛节奏和方式的改变让三双变得越来越常见，所以三双的价值也就没以前那么高了。
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