08.27 因驱逐邓肯被斯特恩要求去看心理医生,走近克劳福德的易怒问题

[Devine] Joey Crawford: David Stern ordered me to get therapy after ejecting Tim Duncan for laughing

乔伊-克劳福德:在我因为邓肯大笑而驱逐了他之后,大卫-斯特恩让我去看看心理医生。

因驱逐邓肯被斯特恩要求去看心理医生,走近克劳福德的易怒问题


[–]OllieBollie06 1776 指標 9小時前*

Well yeah, you ejected someone for essentially minding their own fucking business.

那不然呢,人自己在那儿待的好好的,您直接就给人驱逐了。

[–]NuggetsEricStoltz-MaskMorty 504 指標 7小時前

Happily minding their own business at that.

人邓肯不光是自顾自的,而且还是开开心心的呢

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 227 指標 6小時前

I feel you all and Stern have it all wrong.

Sure it LOOKED like Timmy was just minding his own business and having a cheery ol' time, but to those with keen court vision and knows Duncan could see he was losing it. Joey saw the truth. Rose would have agreed with the call.

我觉得你们大家还有斯特恩都误会了。

的确,看起来邓肯只是自己在那儿自娱自乐、享受庆祝时光,但是对于那些有着敏锐球场视野并且了解邓肯的人来说,他们知道邓肯要疯。克劳福德透过现象看到了本质,罗斯会赞同这个判罚的。

Tim Duncan was not just happily minding his own business, but he was EXTREMELY happy. Like OVERLY JOYED. OVER THE TOP. Duncan was getting out of control. Expressing his emotions. Talking to people. SMILING!

邓肯可不单单只是开心地坐在那里啊,他那是“喜不自胜”,是“欣喜若狂”,是“乐不可支”,邓肯那已经放飞自我了,宣泄情感、和别人说话,邓肯那可是在笑诶!!!

It was beyond the point where Duncan was in control of himself or his emotions.

Who know's what Tim might have done next? Tip Popovich over? Or worse yet, some fan?

Joey made the right call.

这已经超出了邓肯的自我控制或情绪管理能力的极限了。

谁能猜到邓肯下一步会做什么啊?掀翻波波?或者更糟,对球迷下手?

克劳福德这吹的可没毛病啊。


[–][CHI] Derrick Rosesnakeincup 120 指標 8小時前

Well you were being a colossal power tripping dick, which was pretty much par the course for ol Joey, so yeah makes sense.

这个嘛,您那时候整个就一拿鸡毛当令箭的大事儿逼,不过这也就是老克劳福德的平均水准嘛,没毛病啊。

[–]coocookazoo 95 指標 9小時前

That's right, Timmy deserves justice

没错,邓肯应该得到正义的伸张!

[–]Trail BlazersDgeneratte 35 指標 8小時前

He also got fined 100,000. How much do refs make?

克劳福德后来还被罚了10万刀,话说裁判一共能挣多少啊?

[–]Mavericks TankwagonCreamOfSumYungFella 60 指標 7小時前

Anywhere from $150-550k, depending on how long they've been doing it. $100k seems pretty stiff.

大概在15万到55万刀之间吧,具体数字取决于裁判资历。10万刀罚款还是挺狠的。

[–]RaptorsTheSimonToUrGarfunkl 40 指標 5小時前

Well when you fuck up the player-referee trust in a multi billion dollar league almost singlehandedly and we are still talking about it 10 years later, it's rather small.

他近乎以一己之力破坏了这个数十亿美元的联盟中球员和裁判之间相互信任,而且严重到事发10年之后人们还在谈论。罚这个数其实还算少了呢。


[–]RaptorsShapeOfAUnicorn 160 指標 9小時前

wtf I love David Stern now

猛龙球迷:哎哟我艹,我咋对斯特恩突然转粉了。

[–][SAS] Dejounte MurrayMisterShazam 341 指標 9小時前

Wow, David Stern, my new favorite NBA commissioner All-Time.

马刺球迷:哇大卫-斯特恩干得不错哦,他现在是我最喜欢的NBA历史最佳总裁了。

[–]Lakersquandrawn 173 指標 8小時前

Nope, never.

湖人球迷:垃倒吧。

[–]KingsTheFoxKing5 75 指標 4小時前

I will always maintain that Stern was the commissioner the nba needed at the time. If Silver was the top boss at the time we wouldn't have the thriving nba we have today. I like Silver, but he's a pushover. Which is fine because he makes a lot of popular decisions and statements.

我一直觉得斯特恩就是那时NBA最需要的总裁人选。如果换成肖华,也许就没有如今这样鼎盛的NBA了。我挺喜欢肖华的,不过他实在是没主见,太容易被摆弄了。不过也没关系,因为他做的决定和说到话有很多都是受大众欢迎的。

But Stern was much more... stern in his approach to the league and the sports world in general. I think he was a better commissioner because he had to make significantly more difficult choices. Plus he never would have let that cap-spike shit fly if he was still around.

不过斯特恩就更……强硬坚定一些。在处理联盟事务以及整个体育圈的方面,他一直坚持一套自己的做法。我觉得斯特恩作为总裁更出色,因为他那时候必须做出更加艰难的抉择。而且如果斯特恩2016年那会儿还在联盟,他绝不会允许工资帽飙升。


[–][LAL] Jose Calderonvictor396 1397 指標 1 天前

We talk about mental health and players but the anger management Crawford did back in the day was, apparently, fundamental in his career.

Props to Stern for promoting it before it was better known or even laughed at (like Metta).

湖人球迷:咱们都乐意讨论球员们的心理健康问题,但克劳福德那时候做的愤怒管理治疗实际上对他的职业生涯是有着至关重要作用的。

斯特恩在这个问题广为人知甚至还会被嘲笑前(正如慈世平)就推行对其的关注,要给他点赞!

[–]Trail Blazers_Quetzalcoatlus_ 194 指標 7小時前

Yeah, everyone is this thread is calling Crawford a dick or just laughing at the title, but it's a good read. I don't think people understand how challenging it is to be a ref in basketball. It's probably the hardest sport to officiate, and you constantly have to deal with players, fans, and coaches yelling at you and calling you names. And there is no real opportunity to defend yourself. You just have to suck it up and stay calm, even when no one else is.

这个帖子里的人要么嘲笑老克劳福德,要么取笑标题,其实这文章挺值得读读的。我觉得大家根本不知道当一名篮球裁判有多不容易。这可能是执法起来最困难的运动啊,而且你还需要不停去处理球员、球迷以及教练的问题,他们会不断冲你叫嚷。你也没机会去为自己辩护,你能做的就是咬碎牙齿往肚子里咽,即便其他人不冷静,你也必须保持冷静。

He would tell me, ‘Joe, if you feel [the anger] coming on, just do something with your hands. Put them by your side or behind your back.’ He told me, ‘Keep reminding yourself, calm down, calm down. If somebody was getting on me about a bad call, he’d remind me, ‘Slow your breathing down. Remind yourself you’re a good ref.’ Those things helped me get through my last 10 years in the NBA.

他告诉我“乔伊,如果你感觉(愤怒)就要爆发了,给自己的手找点事情做。把手放在两侧或者身后,”他告诉我,“记住,冷静再冷静,如果有人因为我吹罚得不好来对我喋喋不休,那这他会提醒我‘放慢呼吸,记住了,你是个优秀的裁判’。这些话语帮我度过了我在NBA的最后10年。

Credit to Crawford for following through and addressing his anger issues.

向克劳福德致敬,他成功坚持了下来,而且还将自己的易怒问题拿到台面上来讨论。

[–]Raptorsrealsomalipirate 54 指標 6小時前

The worst thing about the sub and sports fandom in general is the abuse towards the refs. It's disgusting.

话题区和体育粉丝群体干的最丑陋的事情就是肆意欺负裁判,这真的很恶心。

[–][MIA] Mike BibbyBZGames 240 指標 7小時前

People clowned on Metta for thanking his therapist after winning the championship

慈世平拿下冠军之后感谢了自己的心理医生,结果也被大家嘲笑了。

[–]Ihatemelo 194 指標 7小時前

Metta was lauded and praised for it. Are we talking about the adult opinion at the time or the teenage social media opinion? I remember distinctly everyone saying how courageous he was to talk about it.

慈世平为此获得了不少夸奖与赞美,咱们说的是成年人的观点吧?不是那帮小年轻键盘侠们的观点吧?我还清楚地记得当时大家都说,慈世平能把这些说出来,真的很勇敢。

[–]Notoriouslydishonest 139 指標 6小時前

It's the internet.

If 100 people support something and 5 disagree, everyone gets worked up about the "trolls".

这就是网络嘛。

如果一样东西有100个人支持,但同时有5个人反对,那大家的注意力就到那五个“哗众取宠”的人身上了。


[–]Slo*河蟹* 25 指標 8小時前

Whats up with all the articles about this all of a sudden?

咋突然之间都是关于这事儿的文章?

[–][LAC] Blake GriffinSTICK_OF_DOOM 40 指標 8小時前

Joey was featured in an ESPN article recently so a lot of new info is coming out.

因为乔伊最近接受ESPN采访,然后后者出了一篇文章,所以炸出了很多新的信息。

[–]macbeth_htebcam 12 指標 4小時前

It's kind of insane that in Joey Crawford and in the writer's mind that this was the one and only mark on an otherwise sterling career. He was awful. He couldn't get over himself, the Duncan incident was just the last straw. I love how he kind of blames Duncan for laughing too.

难以置信,在克劳福德和该文章作者的脑海里,他们觉得克劳福德如此辉煌的生涯里就只有这么一个污点?克劳福德真的是太糟了,他太把自己当回事儿了,邓肯事件只是压垮骆驼的最后一根稻草。而且他字里行间的那意思是怪邓肯笑,呵呵啊。


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